> This is enshittification: Surpluses are first directed to users; then, once they're locked in, surpluses go to suppliers; then once they're locked in, the surplus is handed to shareholders and the platform becomes a useless pile of shit. From mobile app stores to Steam, from Facebook to Twitter, this is the enshittification lifecycle.
Two charitable readings would be that the author is either:
* Suggesting Steam is a platform like any other, and therefore likely to experience the same process.
* Critical of the quality of some of the titles released on the platform. Steam used to be much more selective in deciding which games made it on to their store. Indie developers and even small publishers were often unable to get their games approved for distribution. This didn't start to change until the introduction of Steam Greenlight[0] in 2012, allowing users to vote on which indie games they'd like to see on the platform for the first time. However, approvals were still heavily curated compared to what we have today. Greenlight was replaced by Steam Direct[1] in 2017.
I don't necessarily disagree with either, although I do think Steam has been improving rather than "shittifying". Wading through low quality games is annoying but there are a lot of fantastic games that would never have been approved under the old system; Vampire Survivors is a great example of something that probably would have gone straight in the bin.
Personally I think the author doesn’t realize that Steam is an exception to this theory. It’s a private company that’s majority owned by a relatively idealistic founder. It’s also not really a social media company in the traditional sense, and it doesn’t really live and die on advertisements.
I also think that the lack of gatekeeping on low quality games is actually more of a benefit than a drawback considering Steam’s robust review system and lenient return policy. Customers on steam want to play unfinished games so long as the early access disclaimer is there, and the indie PC scene that has low barrier to entry has launched some of the gaming infustry’s biggest hits (like Minecraft, Stardew Valley, Terraria, etc).
The old school console system where developers have to sign contracts and shell out thousands of dollars for SDKs led to less innovative software.
Yes to the first. Steam is a platform like any other, and it has demonstrated that it no longer cares after its users have dedicated themselves to the platform by having gigantic collections. It's a lock in like any other, and Steam benefits, they've been able to not give a single damn about anything for years. They're able to buy studios and cancel projects at will because what's going to happen? You're going to stop buying on Steam? Yeah right.
The only real exception to this are the devs working on Proton.
I think you need some examples. Valve hasn’t behaved in the way you described at all.
Buying studios and canceling their projects? What are you even talking about?
Valve’s console allows other competing game stores to run on it out of the box. It even and directly supports installing Windows. Any other console manufacturers doing that?
I would argue that anyone who wants to stop buying on Steam has almost no friction to doing so compared to other platforms. All you have to do is buy all your games from somewhere else from now on. You don’t have to replace any Valve hardware you own because their hardware is the most open and well-supported on the market.
I’m just struggling to figure out how Valve “no longer cares.”
I actually hate Steam. I despise Steam. But I have to go to bat for them here and say that they don't seem any worse today than they ever have been, and every time I get dragged into opening their shitty app to buy a game that isn't available elsewhere, the app is at least a little better than it was last time I used it.
The only things about them that are particularly user-hostile and make me hate them are:
1. DRM - The DRM isn't particularly onerous but it is there. All your dozens or hundreds of games get locked together into one account, and even if you own two or three computers, you can only play a game on one of them at a time. This made it very difficult for me to maintain a VR gaming station at my house, since my nephews playing VR upstairs meant that I couldn't play DotA 2 downstairs unless I started a second account.
2. Customer Service - Their customer service isn't as nonexistent as some companies', but it's pretty thin on the ground
So far as I can tell, they seem to go out of their way not to enshittify anything in any way ever.
Ironically this is probably also because of their effective monopoly on games distribution. If they had to compete with other distributors, they would probably try to implement toothier default DRM to attract publishers.
I think they said publicly that they were able to show with data that SteamWorks' mild DRM by itself was enough to severely curtail piracy, and that's why other companies have been chilling out on the highly invasive DRM on Steam
What studios/projects have they cancelled? The only two I can think of are that they stopped making Steam Controllers and Steam Link became a software solution in the form of "Remote Play" and "Remote Play Together".
Over the last few years they've released the Steam Deck and Valve Index, supporting them with pretty decent software.
The Steam Deck UI improvements have made their way over to "Big Picture Mode" and similar UI changes for the PC client are currently available in the public beta.
> You're going to stop buying on Steam? Yeah right.
Frankly, It's annoying when I can't buy on Steam. Epic spent tens of millions on exclusivity deals to force me to choose between their shitty client or hoping it gets released on Steam in a year or two. The only result is that I have less regard for both Epic and those developers.
We are very lucky that Valve is privately owned and that GabeN retains majority control (at least he did last I checked). He is famously "pro gamer" and IMO one of the main reasons Valve hasn't gone through enshittification (yet).
My fear is that once he goes, the bulwark goes with him.
Also means they don't have to grind or worry about specific quarterly performance.
It shows -- the platform is generally pretty good. I've had grumbles, but compared to most of the other paid software I use, Steam still delivers -- even on Fedora Linux.
Proton in Linux is great, btw. Been able to run Cyberpunk 2077, Horizon ZD, and other major games with little to no issue. Shout out to the ProtonDB and WineDB -- if anything doesn't work they usually have the answers on how to fix.
I found Vampire Survivors in Steam's "Discovery Queue".
I didn't buy it at first but it was recommended in one of the "Since you like X" carousels and it was so cheap that I didn't really care if it was bad.
I've found a fair few games through the Steam store that I've really enjoyed. Two off the top of my head:
- "Gunfire reborn" is a fun rogue-like shooter from a chinese developer.
- "Risk of Rain 2", another roguelike. I'd played the original 2d version and didn't particularly enjoy it. The 3D sequel was great.
Not me but terminally negative people usually repeating that:
- it's not open source
- games are expensive (even though it's set by the publishers not Valve)
- DRM (even though the Steam launcher is not a DRM itself which people mistaking with the SteamWorks DRM system which is optional)
- monopoly (even though you can use GOG, Uplay, EA, Humble, BattleNet, Amazon Prime, MS Store and the countless other options on PC if you wish unlike on iOS and consoles) etc.
For clarity, it's important that readers know that using alternatives (like GOG, Uplay, EA) isn't actually a valid option here because they do not carry the same games that Steam does (due to Steam's dominant position in the marketplace, many avoid releasing on other stores at all). I'm not stating they don't carry identical libraries as some difference is tolerable, I'm talking about vast vast portions of Steam's collection are unavailable elsewhere.
Meaning those stores would be put at a terrible financial disadvantage trying to get developers onto their store. Hence why most of them (excluding GOG and Epic) just have their first party games on there. This pull is so intense, that most of those you've listed have put their games on Steam again.
Then there are those like Humble, which aren't actually a separate platform, they just sell keys and for the longest time they exclusively sold Steam keys. This is crucial to understand because "using Humble" still means encouraging Steam lock in.
GOG and Epic are real competitors, with GOG's competitive edge being they only have games that are DRM free. I suppose this is a bit of a double edged sword, as most gamers don't care about DRM and therefore just want the latest game available, which GOG does not carry if it has DRM. GOG usually gets games years after launch when the developer feels DRM is no longer needed. So their competitive edge becomes yet another reason most GOG buyers also have Steam accounts.
> even though you can use GOG, Uplay, EA, Humble, BattleNet, Amazon Prime, MS Store and the countless other options on PC if you wish unlike on iOS and consoles
Note that if you're an indie developer and you want to make money, you pretty much are going to use Steam. The alternative is if someone like Epic sponsors development or something. But yeah, you can release on stores like itch. Nobody will buy it, but you can do it.
This can lead to a little bit of a chicken-and-egg problem. Ideally, devs will put up both a Steam version and an Itch/GOG version. But in practice they often don't; you sell on the store that brings in the vast majority of revenue. And then pretty soon your mods start getting managed through Steam Workshop, your input starts getting managed through Steam Input, your achievements/multiplayer starts getting managed though Steam's cloud. Because frankly, players want that. Steam players want to use Steam Workshop, and they don't really care if that means the mods are harder to use outside of Steam.
None of these services can be separated easily from the Steam platform. You can't pay Valve some money and integrate seamless workshop support into your game when it's booted up from GOG.
So users may try to avoid Steam for a while (I generally do), but you can only really do that if you're willing to skip games (still waiting on Spelunky 2, Ultrakill, Cruelty Squad, etc...). GOG and Itch are great and some devs are genuinely great about supporting multiple storefronts, but it's always going to be a subset. So eventually users get tired and just buy everything from Steam. I mean, if you buy from Steam you get input profiles set up out of the box, you get cached shaders, and importantly you never need to wonder whether or not a game is coming to the storefront you use. Never. And if a game ever doesn't come to Steam (hello Epic Games) you can have an existential meltdown and say that the devs are ruining PC gaming.
And as a consequence, if you're an indie developer, you are releasing on Steam. Because it's really difficult for users to avoid Steam because that's where the games are, and as a developer it's really difficult to avoid Steam because that's where the users are, and we go round and round until a nontrivial portion of PC players believe that PC gaming effectively means Steam, and anything that's not on Steam might as well just not exist.
You kind of saw this with the Epic Games fights around exclusives. I'm no friend of DRM and I'm no friend of exclusives, but not being able to get a game because it's not on the storefront I want to use is extremely common for me, and it was extremely weird seeing Steam users act like this was the end of the world when it happened to them. It really cued me in to how much power that Steam has, to the point where people basically treat it as a default platform. On some level it is on devs like me to support multiple storefronts, but people need to recognize that there's really not a lot of incentive to do so beyond trying to make the ecosystem healthy. Breaking Steam's stranglehold over the PC market would need to be a coordinated effort from both developers and players, it's not something developers can do on their own.
A shopping cart is not a non core feature if you want to have large sales, and it shouldn't take a decade to build.
This whole conversation always devolves into straw man nonsense and it gets old. Is steam perfect? No. It has a lot of classic valve issues and the biggest argument I see is should they be able to take 30%.
Was epic a competitor? So far no, and mostly because of screw ups on their end. If you want people to adopt an alternative from something that's already very convenient , then you need to make yours more so, not less. People aren't sticking with steam because of forums or profiles or whatever. They're sticking with steam because the only competitive advantage epic offers is Free games (which are easy enough to grab and dip) and exclusives (which ignoring if this should or shouldn't be a thing, isn't nearly enough to pull people over rather than make them sometimes hop across)
No end of consumer hostile practises, undeclared telemetry gathering, half-baked service even today (is there a wishlist yet?), basically ran by the Chinese government through Tencent.. ok that last one is a semi-joke.
There are many valid and grave complaints people have regarding them, not merely some princess and the pea type things as how you make it out to be.
The point I was trying to make is that wishlist, shopping cart, and similar features were missing for the longest time, not at all what you'd consider "extra, non-core features it took Steam two decades to build"
I like Steam, but IMO this is a bad faith way of arguing in their favored. Let people who don’t like it present the argument instead, if you can’t even wait until you’ve finished presenting the anti-Steam argument before coming up with counterpoints.
It's basically the very definition of bad faith to respond to a comment asking for reasons to believe a thing like this.
Valve charges 30%. I personally believe that this is an evil amount. The fact that the market bears it is, by my estimation, strong evidence of their monopoly position. The same argument holds for any "platform" charging that much more than the the cost of hosting.
Calling your opposition terminally negative is pretty shitty.
Steam is only good relative to its competitors. From a technical perspective, it's a dumpster fire that hasn't notably evolved in twenty years, full of broken, abandoned, and half-implemented features (off the top of my head: search, profiles, group chat, voice chat, the phone app, broadcasting, the community tab, the in-game overlay, big picture mode, and any context where it ever feels like rendering a website in its own janky, slow, insecure fork of some 2008-era browser engine all fall into one these categories).
Fortunately, it mostly works to launch games, which is all it needs to do. Valve's own legendary internal dysfunction is perhaps a reason why it hasn't been enshittified as thoroughly as other launchers. (And I say this as someone who is happy that Valve puts any thought at all into gaming on Linux, and intends to buy a Steam Deck someday.)
Interesting... I've never heard that about Valve being a dysfunctional company. They have the higher revenue per employee than Google or Microsoft. Staff seem highly motivated and self directed, and - with the notable exception of the Tilt 5 conflict over the future being VR vs AR (which was settled incredibly amicably) - they seem notably free of internal dysfunction. For a company in the games industry in particular, they seems astonishingly well run.
Valve's dysfunction doesn't manifest as drama (which is how dysfunction manifests in other gaming companies, e.g. Activision-Blizzard), but rather as interminable deadlock. Fortunately for Valve, they reaped the first-mover advantage with Steam (and literally invented loot crates, a decade before Fortnite) and can freely sit on their laurels while Steam prints an infinite pile of money.
Valve Index, Steamdeck, continual dominance of PC gaming both in long tale and new releases. I see enormous creative and financial success, and apparently an engaging and productive place to work. What deadlock? Game releases? That hasn't been their focus for a long time - yet when they do release a new game, like Halflife Alex, its usually critically lauded and commercially successful. Meanwhile much of the PC gaming space is suffering from enormous problems - early broken releases, bad ports, stutter struggle etc. Valve seem like a rare bright light of ethical business and technological innovation.
That may be but they're sitting on their laurels more productively, in terms of revenue and profit per employee, then either Microsoft or Google or Meta.
Yeah - that sounds ideal honestly. And I think their success bears it out. A company driven by the passions and creativity of some of the most talented programmers and artists in the industry. They gate for self motivated people through their hiring process, and it works well for them. The idea that organisational structures should be authoritarian in order to be productive is fundamentally flawed IMHO, and Valve (as well as companies like SEMCO, and educational organisations like Sudbury Valley) ably bear that out.
All large organizations are fundamentally pathological, and even smaller ones will have their own querks and disfunctions.
Valve has gotten a lot of attention, and a lot of flak, over its flat structure and "drivers", but I'm not sure that's particularly worse than some of the atrociously broken engineering practices I've seen at F500 companies.
I sort of wonder if they are even a game company anymore.
I mean we could model them as a totally dysfunctional game company they happens to have a platform. Or as a basically prudent platform company that happens to release a game once a decade or so.
They should get rid of their web browser, that’s the sort of market where they can’t keep up.
The new and rearchitected Steam client (currently in public beta) is an improvement over the old client for me. It feels like a pretty good evolution, bringing performance and new features.
It's pretty clear they have spent a lot of time and effort on this release, without enshittifying it.
You'll be disappointed, it's not an entirely new client but rather a hybrid. Some pages are in a new design, some in the old, it's a huge mish mash in the same way Windows is.
The updated Big Picture mode is great. I'm able to do practically all my Steam-related interactions with just a controller, without needing to get my keyboard/mouse.
I agree. Valve is one of the few companies I would deem "good" or at least not evil. I suspect this is because the company is privately owned and their CEO, Gabe Newell, is a software engineer and not an MBA. He's also a hardcore gamer which means he's a user of the end product like the rest of us.
I like Steam. It is much better than pretty much every other game store platform thingy.
I do sort of wonder—Valve is notoriously slow with their development. Maybe that’s an advantage for a platform developer. They seems to make surprisingly few shit moves, but then, they also don’t make many moves at all. Either they are on the same enshittification trajectory as everybody else, just moving along more slowly. Or they can see the other platforms steal their ideas, sprint ahead in to shitsville, and say “ok let’s not do that.”
Small org + a huge and VERY responsive -- often negatively -- user base.
Some dude will run roughshod over the worst potholes and never say a peep to city hall (or even vote), but if their copy of Steam crashes twice a week they'll get on every platform known to man and complain.
Which is why I am fearful of the future. When Gabe retires, what happens then? I suspect Microsoft/Google/EA/anybody have already offered sweet-heart billion dollar acquisitions offers. Will the next CEO continue to turn down those deals?
Steam is not shitty yet, but they are resting on their laurels.
The main issue is that Steam takes a much bigger cut than Epic (30% vs 12%). Of course Epic will inevitably enshittify themselves once they take market share away from Steam.
The Steam client just gets stuff incoherently bolted on top of old codebase, and the UI became eclectic.
GoG client library can seamlessly integrate with Epic client. It used to work well with Steam too, but now integration with Steam has become clunky and buggy. I'm not entirely sure whose fault is that, but I suspect Steam started defending their moat.
Steam's UI has been a mess but Epic is garbage in comparison. It took Epic three years to support buying more than one game at a time. Unless things have changed recently, they're nowhere near Steam when it comes to basic functionality like search and filtering.
Remote Play/Remote Play Together alone puts Steam ahead personally.
--extreme slowness and shittiness of this feature (pages not loading, low rate limits for looking at inventory pages)
-player item trading.
--trading experience sucks it also runs into the rate limit and inventories not loading.
-steam market.
--half-baked, can't sell quickly. If you get 5 items it takes like 2 minutes to list each individual item. This is ALSO affected by the slow pages. Using a bot is against the TOS but is also the only decent experience.
-social hub for each game, maybe this is too opinionated but now every game is also a social media page. Bad/abandoned games even get used as an image hosting service for unrelated profile adornments.
-streaming, intrusive streams in store pages.
-Popularized if not invented loot crates which have now infected everything.
-Popularized cosmetics micro transactions, which turned into far more expensive transactions.
-created new types of FOMO for sales and incentivizing spending money via limited time trinkets (badges, stickers, profile customization), steam points.
Opinions ofc but these range from being somewhat on target to wildly out there and speculative and on top of that many of their projects get quietly dropped and are left without support after initial release like the inventory ui and the market.
Game Pass is doing a lot better than the XBox itself is. I honestly think that Microsoft needs to pull a Sega, stop making hardware and release their games on other people's hardware instead. Game Pass on PS5 would get a lot of subscribers. Halo on PS5 would do insanely well.
Is Xbox losing money? Even if it is not mega-profitable, having a consumer device sitting in many living rooms has got to be worth something. If nothing else, as a gateway to Game Pass.
If you are looking at weirdo things - Microsoft still makes keyboards. That has to be such a minuscule part of the business as to be completely irrelevant.
They did add a bunch of achievements for each gamr, collectables and in game purchases along with a plattform to trade those. But it is not on the nose, and mostly cosmetic stuff like skins as far as I can tell. All of that is offset by Steams drive to get more and more games playable under Linux so.
It’s been in existence for 20 years now, so I‘m rather amazed by how little it has changed, while obviously the background work (scaling, security) has always kept up.
I love it, really do! And as I said, the trading of in game stuff, that doesn't have game impact most of the time, is more like a fun add-on for people who like it. Steam is a great service, something that represents the internet we could have had in a different time-line.
>> It's not obligatory to have achievements unlike on the PlayStation
While it is indeed mandatory for your game to have achievements on Playstation, the TRCs don't specify anything about the quanity nor quality of those achivements. If you want you can launch the game with a single achievement for starting the game and it would still be approved.
How is it better? Seems to me the client is about the same as it ever was, which is another way of saying stagnant. Only the games have changed, and they don't make the games.
The client supports seamlessly streaming games from my PC to any device I own. A friend in another city is able to play local co-op games that have no online support.
Controller support in Steam has continued to improve: supporting pretty much any controller, gyroscopes, per-game custom mappings, sharing/applying community created mappings, etc. I'm not aware of anything similar in competitor's stores.
Library filtering and search is hugely improved over the old system that only supported manually adding games to your own tag categories. "Dynamic collections" can be created which include games based on store tags, genre, controller support, whether a particular list of friends also have the game, and a few other things.
Updates/news for games you own or are following is a lot more visible than it used to be as well.
Sometimes software that runs stable and does its thing, and does so in the same manner for years, is quite refreshing. Doing its job good, and stable, wothout adding shit nobody needs is a goodbthing.
Aye, I still use MATE on Linux because I don't need a new, fancy interface or new desktop effects, I just need something simple to do what it needs to do.
Same with Steam -- it's just an interface to get to the games. Doesn't need to be obtrusive or detailed, just good enough to help me do what I need it to do.
To be clear, I like that they haven't added more features. Though Steam always did a lot of unnecessary stuff to begin with, like forcing updates or opening itself when I want to run a game.
I've always disliked Steam cause I view it as just an extra DRM/adware/forced-update step to run Steam-exclusive games, but don't see how it's gotten worse over time. It's gotten a little more stable if anything.
Steam is better DRM than the DRM options we had before, which were an absolute nightmare. Upgraded your motherboard? Better call customer support to get your account restored.
Spore is the worst example[0] that I remember. The article has someone complaining "no way am I paying $50 to rent a game!", but while we still do that (irritatingly) at least the "rental" process is now smooth and streamlined, and, in my experience, works great.
They're not mutually exclusive. Some Steam games have their own DRM and/or online registration on top, most infamously GTA IV. Same game later received an "update" via Steam that removed some soundtracks. And I've heard of newer mainstream games with Denuvo anti-cheat/DRM on Steam with similar hardware checks.
It was about time that someone standardized the game purchase/update process, and yeah publishers are gonna want DRM, but I wasn't happy with the choice. Steam was needlessly in the way. (Past tense cause I don't play games anymore)
Some of us would argue that the absolutely endless stream of anime rape simulators on Steam have rendered it nigh useless for finding good new content.
Steam seems to suffer from the issues of discovery of great content among the sea of average stuff. That's a different, common and hard to overcome variant of enshitification.
It's true that Steam pushes big-name AAA games, but Steam still regularly shows me incredible games I've never heard of without me prompting it to. As someone who browses game forums frequently, I'm amazed at that. The bigger problem IMO is just the insane oversaturation of video games. Even if I quit my job and all my other hobbies, I would never catch up to all the games I want to play. So I don't think it's even possible for Steam or another storefront to nail discovery in a truly satisfying way.
This is true -- there is a lot of dross and spam on Steam -- but there is also a whole galaxy of game reviewers, curators, and commenters. It's not hard to find a few and follow their advice.
Meanwhile, no one is reviewing all of the cheapo garbage on Amazon. 44 different drop shippers all selling stuff from China, and all without any meaningful way to differentiate them. Hell, they could all be the same company.
This is why utility tokens can be a far superior way to fund a project. The network can end up being owned by its users in the end - more akin to social democracy than capitalism. It’s the difference between disney dollars vs shares in Disney Corp.
Doctorow's definition of "enshittification" has always rubbed me the wrong way. Platforms oscillate between good and bad for all sorts of reasons, and the best platforms (imo) live and die on the culture of their userbase. There have been truly godawful social media systems out there, like Nintendo's Miiverse or the old Dark Souls message system (or even HN, in a way). They're still immensely fun to use, though - mostly because of the culture of their userbase. You could argue they might leave if their surpluses are directed back to the shareholders, but many of these platforms don't need much surplus to exist in the first place. The $40 billion Twitter valuation is a joke, it's undeniable that there is some form of imposed value outside of what the company is actually worth. In other words, the enshittification of TikTok correlates directly with the enshittification of it's userbase. Same goes for all of these other lowest-common-denominator platforms.
Plus, his examples seem to contradict his thesis:
- Mobile app stores have always been controlled by their vendors, there is no illusion of non-shittification there
- Steam has no real shareholders, and exploits suppliers to cater to users and and themselves
- Facebook has a half-dozen different platforms that have all arguably launched in pre-shittified states
- Twitter lives a constant repeating lifecycle of enshittification and resurrection, mostly because most people can't be bothered to find an alternative
It all feels like trying to unify these concepts under one formal thesis of shit is a bad idea. Our expectations of the internet are constantly changing, and our cultural landscape is shifting to realize that we've had a pretty raw deal for the past decade. Now we want to lash out at the platform-holders, when deep-down we know that we're partially to blame.
I just wish Doctorow didn't use this idea to peddle the idea of helplessness to Twitter/Tumblr/Whatever users. There are alternatives, TikTok should not be the be-all-end-all of internet interaction anyways.
> There have been truly godawful social media systems out there, like Nintendo's Miiverse or the old Dark Souls message system. They're still immensely fun to use, though - mostly because of the culture of their userbase.
I think large, modern, free social like TikTok are often built to be more to be advertiser-friendly, and that prevents such a culture from emerging in the first place. Curation and moderation -- natural ways are to form a bond or culture with other users are prevented by TikTok since the default feed is a stream of videos (and according to the article, selectively controlled by ByteDance). Another thing that these platforms are sneakily controlling is hyperlinking itself -- you cannot actually post a link in a comment on TikTok or Instagram.
> There are alternatives, TikTok should not be the be-all-end-all of internet interaction anyways.
Well, hopefully users read the article and discover new ones! Not sure how old you are, but my understanding is that TikTok and Instagram are pretty much the places to be for teens and college students in the US -- they are basically the Facebook for this generation. And you can't even post a hyperlink on Instagram.
There's no resurrection to Twitter, its been a cesspit since day one, it's just that there's no meaningful competitor.
I'll agree on Steam - it has its problems, but the users, as a rule of thumb, don't hate it. It works, its reasonably convenient, most users don't get burnt by its policies, and nobody wants to install crap like Origin and UPlay.
Look, I hate Twitter. I've tried using it 4 different times over the past decade and it never stuck with me.
For everyone else though, it's like digital crack. It was the place to be for a while, even though it's users would chafe over minor changes. And of course, there was the original Cambrian explosion of microblogging movies and blind dates and garage sales and haircuts et. al... mostly replaced today by politics and related vitriol.
It's 100% the fact that there is no meaningful competitor, exacerbated by people being lazy and distrustful of other private platforms. And good - these people should be wary, and Cory Doctorow should be on his soapbox telling people how to live in a post-social-media world rather than riling them up to go yell at clouds online.
> For everyone else though, it's like digital crack
I'm not sure Twitter ever was a universal thing. I barely know any people in real life that actually use it. It's only tech nerds/people working in media, and the others don't exist in real life because they don't go outside. It's easy to ignore Twitter drama completely, because nobody cares about Twitter except the people that use Twitter.
Instagram and TikTok however really did capture the mainstream.
IMO, part of having a social platform actually retain quality long-term is not ever making it too good. You've got to discourage the masses of people who mainly post memes, puns, and jokes to everything if you want the people who actually make insightful posts to stay around and write posts, and for them to be visible and upvoted.
Reddit is kind of an example of both - how low-quality the discourse is in big default subs and on their new interface and app, and how quality is still retained in some places with much smaller memberships with users who mostly prefer the old UI or mobile apps that are more friendly towards reading and writing longer posts.
> There have been truly godawful social media systems out there, like Nintendo's Miiverse
Miiverse was never going to be the next Twitter… but then, Nintendo didn’t want it to be. It was a pretty niche thing, but for its niche it was unique and clever.
You might think it was godawful, but I wish there were more experimental networks out there like it.
Yes, as an abstract hypothesis it would need to be proven each time. A historian could write a long article giving extensive evidence about how well it applies in each case. That’s how you’d do it if you wanted to be taken seriously, and you might run into complications like each service evolving somewhat differently if you pay attention to the details. Real history is complicated.
But most people won’t want to bother with that. We will often just call something names if it seems right to us. That’s how words (and in particular, insults) normally work.
So, another way to look at this is that Cory Doctorow came up with a middlebrow justification for calling things shit, and people liked it enough to ask him to write more about it. The justification isn’t necessary though. You could just call it shit, and it’s pretty much equivalent. (Although it leaves out the generic anti-capitalist ideology.)
While I do think "enshittification" is a thing, I think it's also the fear of becoming "stale" that leads platforms to eventually overcompensate, aliening its users and potentially dying off. In my opinion, the life cycle of a platform looks like:
1. Platform is created with a strong vision in mind.
2. Platform gains popularity, adding new features. Many will die here, but the most successful projects will create features that positively supplement the core vision. There is a lot of positivity amongst its userbase.
3. Platform eventually becomes one of the leaders amongst its particular niche, typically new features begin to slow down as the platform reaches its ideal feature set and all the low hanging fruit is gone.
4. The platform is no longer causing disruption in the space, but is now the status quo. New competitors or clones will pop up trying to get a piece of the pie, but the network effect keeps users on the platform
5. Despite having an ideal feature set, platforms don't want to completely stop development, so new features continue to come in, but are more and more misaligned to the original vision. UI changes, incorporating clever features from its competitors, or trying to chase the trends in the tech space (NFTs, AI, etc)
6. Users are more and more alienated, but are willing to remain with the platform until a competitor arrives that is viewed to be worth the trouble to switch. As the network effect kept users on the platform, it also opens a floodgate as users quickly switch away.
7. The platform languishes in relative obscurity before being bought out and left in a zombie state.
I think there are quite a few established platforms that remain in stage 5 or so. There's lots of criticism of Facebook, Twitter, Discord, etc. but everyone continues to use them because of the value they feel from other users using the platform. It's only once people leave for greener pastures that they die out (just look at the rise and fall of chat apps like AIM, MSN, Skype, etc. over time).
I think pretty much every software company fails to understand that step 4 means you win. You're done. Close the code editor. You don't need to prove anything anymore. Put the software into maintenance mode, fix bugs, polish it off, make it faster if you can, but stop cramming features.
As a user, I've never in my life said "You know, software XYZ does everything I want it to, but since they don't randomly change the UI and update it with unwanted features every few months, it's 'stale' and I won't use it anymore!"
I feel like everything past step 4 is "Developers gotta develop and designers gotta design" and making changes for change's sake rather than the user's sake.
The problem from an economic standpoint, and the article alludes to this, is that a lot of these platforms just aren’t profitable at stage 4. They might be ubiquitous, well loved by users, and have next to no meaningful competition, but if the money isn’t there they will be under the gun to iterate until it is. And even if it is the fear has been, and continues to be, that unless you’re becoming even more profitable each quarter by siphoning off excess value from your network that you’re basically failing at your basic function as a public company. I’m not sure I can think of a good example of this, Google used to be it, but they’ve gone so downhill in the last 10 years.
I don't think you can feature-cram your way to profitability. If you have a great product with loyal, paying users, and are still not profitable, then maybe the product isn't the problem. Jamming chat into your product is not going to make you profitable. Adding annoying notifications is not going to make you profitable. Moving all the buttons around to make a new UI is not going to make you profitable.
Marketing has the four P's. Software companies seem to just focus on changing one P (the most expensive and disruptive to change) and hoping for a miracle.
The thing is, a product that users love and a product that generates profits are frequently not the same product. You need to add more feature-cram to be profitable, and users hate feature-cram.
I see your point, but I don't think I agree. Yes, cramming unwanted features can kill a product, but so can going to "maintenance mode". Users can tell when a company has stopped caring. It may be a slow death, but it's death all the same, and eventually a hungry competitor will come along and eat your lunch.
This is an excellent description of the trajectory of Digg, the first platform I witnessed going through this lifecycle. In this case, the competitor that drained users from Digg was Reddit.
Another feature of Digg’s decline was a disastrous redesign that, overnight, soured most of the users on the site. It was basically a speed run of step 5 here.
oh, yeah. That was a bonehead move on the part of Digg. I was happy with it until that disasterous change.
It reminds me of a bar I used to go to in San Francisco called The Rat and the Raven. There was a bartender there named Storm Large and she was great. This was a long time ago. It was packed every single day. People from all walks of life went there - from bikers to investment bankers.
Then it was bought out. Instead of leaving it alone, they decided they could make it better. They changed it to some kind of upscale thing. Put nice floors down, tables, nice railings.
I went in every once in a while and it was crickets on the weekends. Nobody there ever.
If one goes in there in the due diligence phase of checking it out, and it is packed every night, why fuck with a good thing?
There's probably also politics issues that cause platforms to constantly grow rather than simply fragment into new products.
The recent changes with Discord are seemingly to make it more social network like but it seems to me like it would just be better to spin that off as a completely different product (build on the same tech) and keep Discord as is.
Besides the point that every word is made up, the word doesn't equal to its meaning. Which is to say, it's valid to dislike "enshittification" as a word, but recognize that what it's trying is mean has merit.
How to know you've made it big as a corporation: Your take any action, and mainstream media finds a way to link that action to the company literally dying. Ideally they use a credible blogger or economist, but it's hardly required.
I think that as long as Doctorow is the face of the movement... with articles like this, we aren't going anywhere and corporations probably don't mind him.
Conciseness is a virtue. When's the last time a corporation has ever produced a 2000-word essay on the reasons you should buy their game? Or a political party releasing a 3000-word essay on the virtues of their economic proposal for public viewing? If the best minds of our movement can't get a point across without, to put it on an extreme note, blathering on and on all over the place, they aren't afraid. Slogans and catchphrases have more power than detailed essays. To quote the 80s cartoon Pinky and the Brain, "Simple Ideas for Simple Minds" is a much smarter strategy for taking over the world.
It's even better when it's behind a paywall. You will pay to read a long essay? The only reason you would do that is if you already care about the subject. Anyone who doesn't care yet won't ever see it or pay for it or read it, so nothing happens at all.
I get that most people never read these sort of documents, but I think some people do and take it seriously, or at the least, would interpret the absence of such a document as a red flag for an ideology lacking intellectual rigor.
Other than it's yet another hit piece (YAHP at this point) against TikTok, not really. Are they doing shady shit? Probably. Is there a social media site who isn't doing shady shit? Probably not. As such, will this kill TikTok? Probably not.
TikTok, even with this change, is still primarily connecting users to users, and not users to brands. This makes them more valuable than any other social media site to those users. Even when TikTok makes missteps.
I honestly believe US Entrepreneurs want TikTok's word-of-mouth success with Facebook's profit margins. But they miss what makes TikTok good - what it connects users to.
Instagram, Snap, even YouTube have the video format down well enough - it's the community they can't just re-create (without changing how they do monetization). A vast majority of creators I follow on TT are on IG and YT, yet I'm never shown their videos. I am, however, shown about a billion ads and repeated videos for every novel video I see.
I think Instagram is a better example of enshittification than TikTok.
It's been around far longer, the algorithm has gotten far worse, and it's not Chinese controlled so people don't criticize it as much and changes slide under the radar.
Well, respected sure, he does write on interesting topics. He's just not a very effective write, he's a story teller, which is good for novels, but annoying for articles like this one.
Anyway, I fail to see the point really of the article. I don't disagree with it, but I doubt that anyone in power cares that Facebook is a zombie, if it still makes money. The only way to really implement a way for consumers to leave these "expired platforms" is to prevent them from forming to begin with. I just don't see how you'd do that, make a law that states that you can't be a social network and a marketplace, or that your users aren't allowed to coordinate event using your platform. They will regardless of you supporting it or not. Half of Twitters features are invented by the users, Twitter just added the features to support the thing the users did anyway.
The article is too fluffed and tries to make a general judgement about platforms that is in reality more nuanced. But I agree with some part of it - platforms are often abused by their owners.
He talks about enshittification and how platforms die from the first sentence -- that's a big part of the topic. But ya, I guess he could have flipped the order, and put the Tik Tok case first, then backed up his hypothesis with the other examples.
> Early crypto liquidity came from ransomware. The existence of a pool of desperate, panicked companies and individuals whose data had been stolen by criminals created a baseline of crypto liquidity because they could only get their data back by trading real money for fake crypto money.
Is that even true, and if so, documented and quantified somewhere?
Surely _some_ came from ransomware, but I feel the article overstates this. Presumably, the hackers also exchange it as soon as they have the chance and they wouldn't have used this as an environment if it didn't have value in the first place.
I think a much better case can be made that early crypto liquidity came from darknet markets.
Going to be extremely hard to quantify, ransomware peddlers aren't famous for their meticulous public record-keeping. You could try to sift through all the transactions on the public blockchain and try to classify the ransomware ones, but that's going to be challenging at best I imagine.
Overall I'm skeptical of the claim. It could be true, or partially true, but demonstrating that would probably require some work. Alternatively, someone could demonstrate that liquidity came from speculators or some other source, which seems potentially less doable but still not easy.
Pretty sure that early crypto liquidity came from VCs, hedge funds, and speculators on Mt.Gox and other early fiat-crypto exchanges and OTC desks. To the extent crypto ransomware contributed, it was a small portion of that.
IMO it's a poor choice on Doctrow's part. Not because I have any real qualms about the use of the word, but because it's guaranteed to draw focus away from the real discussion.
George Carlin talked about this quite a bit, though. People object to "bad" words but words that describe objectively worse things are fine.
We can freely discuss killing, but we can't say "fuck" without people getting upset.
Talk about companies doing objectively evil things, crickets. Use the word "shit" while doing so, and it's guaranteed to bring out the people who object to the language used rather than the things that are happening.
It's attention grabbing for sure, but I feel like a more carefully chosen name would make the discussion and acceptance of the concept go a lot farther.
Is it even attention grabbing anymore? Everyone I know from teenagers to 60-year-old county employees use it now. From my experience, the shock value is now minimal. Instead of shock value, it just makes me take whoever uses it less seriously because I mentally associate them with a high-school-level of maturity.
Yes especially people that say things like "chips" instead of "shit". I'm always like WTF are you 5???
I lived in a small town in Ireland for a while and I got that a lot here. Though go to the pub and the F-word would be interspersed twice in every sentence. I never really got that hypocrisy.
It carries a very different meaning from terms like 'Trash', 'Garbage', 'Rubbish', 'Tyre Pyre', and a singificantly-enough-different meaning from something like 'Cesspit' and 'Dump'.
I never understood the self censorship on the internet. Why replace the letters in shit with dashes? I can sort of understand not spelling out the N word fully to not trigger aggressive filter sensors on some networks, but shit?
No one is mastering anything by censoring themselves - and that's exactly what it is, you still used the word just replaced some letters with dashes. I'd honestly understand if someone said "I wish articles wouldn't use profanities in their titles" - then yes, I'm 100% onboard. But using the profanity, just with dashes instead of letters? It's performative, not dignified.
> I can sort of understand not spelling out the N word fully to not trigger aggressive filter sensors on some networks, but shit?
Hopefully this isn't why you aren't avoiding the N word. Using the N word if you aren't black yourself indicates either that you are unaware of its history, you don't care about it, or you care about it precisely because it causes offense. And being unaware usually correlates with not caring. People naturally infer from this that your attitude towards black people falls somewhere in the range from "I don't think about their interests" to "I wish them harm". It amounts to declaring one's hostility. The milder end of this range still implies contempt.
Communicating one's desire to offend is sufficient to cause offense. Everyone knows this. One can control one's own reaction to insults, but one cannot control the reactions of third parties who witness it. Everyone knows this as well. So claims that offended parties should just grow a thicker skin are disingenuous. This measure is insufficient to prevent all harm. So one should not say the N word not because of algorithms, but because you know in advance that it will cause harm.
Saying shit is different. Except in particular contexts -- a conversation in a retirement community, say, or a preschool -- its use cannot be construed as an attempt to harm particular classes of people. Outside of these contexts those who take offense are generally understood to be mistaking the intention of the speaker.
>>those who take offense are generally understood to be mistaking the intention of the speaker.
This is literally the entire point of what I said. Everything you said before it is unnecessary. Obviously I wouldn't use the word to offend anyone. But if you are quoting a passage from a book(as an example) that uses that word, then write it out not put dashes instead of letters, that's just silly - you still used it, just self censored yourself.
I think it's perfect as it is. It's catchy and really describes what's happening. Moreover, it really needs a word with at least a little bit of impact because the phenomenon is so bad.
I've seen the word in business presentations and documents. Even the poo emoji (often alongside the "cow" one). It's not weird anymore. Language changes.
Your wish for no cursing along with your deed of refusing to spell out the word "shit" are textbook markers of prude behavior, in any world.
Also-- not sure if this tracks with other people, but in real life I test "prude" for the pejorative sense by multiplying it by $self_awareness. If the result is nonzero I interpret it as a stricture that produces some kind of knowledge, e.g., someone choosing to live by a code. I'm not sure if that sticks with the spirit of the word, but that kind of person can certainly appear prude at first approximation.
If the result is zero, I suddenly get hungry and must leave the conversation immediately to inspect the refreshment table.
Profanity is (and importantly, always has been) an extra punctuation mark. It's an embellishment that draws people's attention; that makes something all the more memorable.
Is it required? No. Is it unreasonably effective for the character count? Yes.
And - as with most everything - folks will live a happier life ignoring profanity than trying to get the world to to stop swearing. Especially since swearing is so fucking fun.
Kinda ruins the fun when it's everywhere. I think the only time it was ever funny was those "I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE" shirts, and that's only cause of unintended negative stereotypes for the wearer.
Great news: if you don’t want to do that you don’t have to.
Hopefully the word shit doesn’t jump and attack you like the bears that God sent to murder children. But anyway I’m glad my religious family told me not to use naughty words.
I like curse words so much that I want to see them used sparingly, lest they lose their impact. There's definitely a time and place for vulgarity and those that use discretion when choosing to employ it get better results than those who don't.
It was a Fiddler on the Roof reference. I don't believe most people think of Fiddler on the Roof as a musical about pogroms, although from a certain point of view maybe it is. He's referencing it because the final scene is what's important.
It seems like the enshittification life cycle directly results from the involvement of venture funding, since it requires the infusion of capital to allow operating at a loss in the beginning, baiting users onto the platform while killing off competitors.
By contrast, the Basecamp approach of bootstrapping cannot make the initial first step of operating at a loss by definition.
I'm new to using social media as a medium to reach an audience. My audience is a niche audience, technical, and not what people associate with typical TikToks. But TikTok has been a good place to start: It is simple; content creation tools are easy to use; the audience is new and growing; there are fewer established content creators in my field on TikTok.
TikTok obviously is differentiated in some ways, but it seems to work like most social media: It will seek an audience response and eventually give up if it can't find one. I cross-post my content, and I will start using "platform neutral" creation tools because social media platforms appear to detect and deemphasize obviously cross-posted content created primarily for competing platforms.
I'll be jumping on BlueSky as soon as the beta deities look favorably on me. No high-growth phase lasts forever.
As an active TikTok user, I have no experience with what he's talking about. My FYP is almost completely small creators with the occasional big creator in a domain TikTok has determined I am engaged by rather than some non-germane 'big' creator getting fished views. Maybe I misunderstood.
I will never understand this passion from the establishment to see TikTok die, next level organized FUD, it's becoming useless at this point, this has 0 effect on TikTok's popularity, worse, I learned about TikTok thanks to this FUD campaign
TikTok is now the 2nd most downloaded app on Android and 2nd most grossing on the Apple store.. wow, what a successful and effective FUD campaign -_-
Platforms are a carnival mirror reflection of the people who use it (both users and suppliers), and "enshittification" is just what it looks like once everyone piles in.
Not really. This one happens because the incentives are aligned in a specific way. (The one you point out would also happen, no doubt, given enough time)
RIP Vine. If our country had stronger antitrust teeth, Vine would have never been killed, and TikTok likely wouldn't have become the dominant social media platform of young people.
"Enshittification" sounds much more clickbaity than "Degeneration."
But a literal reader might think "what's digesting TikTok?" Because technically, enshittification means sucking the nutrients and water out of it. It's what happens to food in your digestive track.
How is steam "enshitified"? Because they take money for services? There's no argument even, which youd think Doctorow could fit into his inflated wordcounts.
Steam is a shitty example, I have no idea why the author brought it up. I don't see Valve "clawing back the value to themselves" at all. Where this launcher shittiness happens in gaming are the other launchers, because studios act the same as media rights holders did with Netflix. As soon as they saw that streaming is profitable, they clawed back whatever IP they could, just so they can launch their own shitty delivery product. Which makes sense to a business, but for the customer, it's now shit. Same with the other Steam competitors with their shitty launchers and exclusives. And in the meantime, Steam delivers customer value better than ever. I also give them props for funding open source development - the windows compatibility layer they package works like a charm, and its development improved gaming on Linux for every Linux gamer, not just those who pay on Steam.
This is a great overview of how for-profit, closed networks start extracting rents for their shareholders from all sides of the marketplace, pit their customers against each other in zero-sum games and even turn to surveillance capitalism — all to turn a profit for their shareholders. And why open source gift economies and Utility Tokens can be a great alternative to shares, with an incentive structure that is better aligned with the public good. Here is how things can be, instead:
> This is enshittification: Surpluses are first directed to users; then, once they're locked in, surpluses go to suppliers; then once they're locked in, the surplus is handed to shareholders and the platform becomes a useless pile of shit. From mobile app stores to Steam, from Facebook to Twitter, this is the enshittification lifecycle.