It doesn't matter.

The burden of truth is supposed to be on the accuser.

Consider if you will - a robber is caught by police in his own house. In this house, they found the items the robber stole. Should they:

a) take the items the robber stole b) take everything

That's probably covered by criminal forfeiture if the robber is convicted.

In a civil case like the one above, its based on a preponderance of evidence. Are you saying that when one device is fake, I should give the benefit of the doubt and assume no other is?

All the adapters were fake. Not the computers.

The main part was not a "branded" item at all. It was an LED thing where no part of the item would be listed, branded, etc. They saw them because they unboxed quite a few of them to find the adapters with the fake UL mark.

You seem assume that CBP will just trust you on your word alone. That's my entire point. They don't know what your intentions with this are, nor if you are being truthful.

If that's true... then they should investigate, not make an assumption and simply capture all of someones valuable property.

OP is inside of the US, and probably lives here as well. He's not a flight risk, and its totally reasonable to ask them to go through slow bureaucratic means to make sure they get it right.

CBP acts like they are the first line in a war when really they ought to be helping people come into compliance, and track down bad suppliers.

> CBP acts like they are the first line in a war

Taped to the wall on the Sault Ste. Marie crossing CBP station:

"We Are The First Line Of Defense"

I think there is more to the story here than being told really. I bet they did investigate, and the poster didn't have documentation. Why are we assuming the commenter is being totally.honest?

Why would I want adapters with fake UL marks? The adapter is a very small amount of the cost.

Obviously one would want them to save money. Same reason the seller put fake marks on.

I have absolutely no idea why “trust” and “intentions” are relevant here.

Why should CBP siege all the electronics if just the adapters are not legal? Sure, if the main electronics also have counterfeit UL marks then they also should be seized, but if the main electronics aren’t counterfeit why should invalid adapters be the grounds for seizing everything else?

So how do you know everything is legit and not just the adaptors?

You are "trusting" the poster here and assuming there "intentions" are good.

I don’t know if the rest of the electronics were legit or not, but I sure hope CBP would be able to tell the difference rather than just asking. Seems like it’s literally their job to determine this kind of thing. If they can’t determine whether or not the rest of the shipment was valid and had to try and determine OP’s intentions, then I genuinely doubt if they should even be seizing anything at all.

As far as me “trusting” OP on the story, well yeah, it’s a random HN comment. Literally nothing is at stake here. If you’re going to start assuming that OP is lying for HN cred then be my guest, but it seems needlessly paranoid to me.

No, I'm saying they saw the main item with their own eyes.

So...CBP are now magically EEs and should now know everything about electronics?

They could see it had no brand labels, or labels of any kind. No magic required.

by your logic shouldn't they also seize all future shipments sent to and/or from the shipper?

Yeah, or least inspect them much more closely.

If you bought something and it arrived and was a fake, would you buy from that shipper again?

If you bought something that was fake, would you want me to seize everything you buy in the future, after you pay?