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I mean, it kind of is. It's been abstracted certainly, and kanban was used for all kinds of project management before software but it was made by a software company that makes tools and products for programmers, who scratched their own itch first. Their initial customer base is developers because they're building on their existing Fog Bugz (and stackexchange a little bit, because of Joel), and you need to differentiate yourself more than you are.

Even based on the screenshots on your site, I'd look at that and say "I'm just going to use Trello".

I would just not bring Trello into the picture at all. Everyone who has knowledge of online management tools is going to compare you to them without your help. What you are doing is an online kanban tool for software development, with vim-like functionality in the browser.

Maybe something like "An opinionated kanban workflow for software projects". Make more out of the fact that you're doing less than your competition. You're exactly the right tool for a particular audience, play to that strength.


I see what you are saying. Thanks for the feedback.


This is completely possible and as a consumer my preference. Most hidden object games follow this practice.


It may be a regional thing. Many (I'd say most, but I don't know the actual percentage) hotels in North America require a credit card, even if you're paying by cash. They will just charge the card after you leave.


That doesn't apply over here (see the less carefully crafted version of your statement/the sibling comment).

That said: What happens if you _have_ a credit card that backs the room, but not the rest of the expenses? I usually travel with a CC (from my employer) backing the room. I never pay my room myself. That said, the hotel isn't allowed to charge minibar/massage/champagne at 3am by room service on the company card - and has no reliable information about me [1].

1: Yes, obviously it's rather dumb to run off with a TV if my company reserved the room or something. But again, as stated elsewhere in this thread: I've seen a number of people getting away with minibar-theft, very easily.


> That said, the hotel isn't allowed to charge minibar/massage/champagne at 3am by room service on the company card

This is the part that nobody understands. This isn't how things would work in the US (and many other countries). And how is this enforced?


Replying here, since HN likes me to calm down or something and hides the direct reply link.

First of all: Thanks a lot for taking me somewhat serious. :)

This is enforced by the letter of my company that states "Our Employee is staying in your hotel. We will cover his room, breakfast, wifi, parking. Please charge the following CC". Everything else is my business. If I eat at the hotel's restaurant I can charge that to my room. When I check out, I have to pay up for the things that aren't cleared for the CC - i.e. still open.

Even if I steal from the hotel and run off with the couch in this room: The company specifically offered their CC for a number of services, paying for me stealing furniture isn't part of that agreement. If I break something they cannot charge the company CC (but at a certain amount will certainly ask my company, which is on file and well-known, to relay a bill to me).

Just having a CC number is not enough to charge it with random things.


Just for reference: In the US, the hotel wants a credit card on file for "incidentals". When you check out, you can tell the hotel how you're going to pay for each bit, and put the porn/minibar/massage on your own CC. But if you skip out, it goes on the card on file. (Is it possible to check into a hotel without a CC on file? You may have to put down a cash deposit or something, I don't know, I've never tried it.)

The hotels would not be interested in enforcing company policy so if you brought them a letter they would probably laugh at you. And your company enforces their "no porn/minibar/massage" policy by auditing the bill--if it's more than they expected, you could be asked for the itemized receipt.

Also, the system seems pretty hackable--forging a letter from a company that says "we will cover everything" seems easy. Of course the company could always audit the bills but once they're doing that why even bother with the letter?

> Just having a CC number is not enough to charge it with random things.

It pretty much is in this country.


Replying again as a sibling, because it's 1:30 am and .. I don't care about waiting 10-15min for the reply button. ;-)

Thanks a lot for the clarification. As I said: I didn't have a CC for most of my life and had to trouble to check into a hotel. Sometimes a cash deposit was indeed required, but that was unusual (and mostly in seedy/grimey/ugly kind of places).

I think a big misunderstanding is the 'company CC' here. There's just one. For the company. Not one for me, for the company. My company has a _single_ CC covering travel expenses (and god knows what). So someone (travel agency, customer, me, who ever) is booking a hotel. My company sends a polite letter to the hotel, stating that it would cover my stay (see above, limitations etc) and offers the CC details or - still quite often the case - asks even to receive the bill by mail.

The hotel has no CC that I gave it, ever. Not mine, not a CC that the company gave me (I .. don't have something like that, doubt that it exists in this company outside of maybe some people in the higher sales ranks and .. well .. maybe the US? No clue). The name on the CC used for these things is actually my CEO, last time I checked.

Hackable: Well, the whole thread is about abuse, but I think you're caught up in that misunderstanding: I'm not providing a CC and forge a letter that says 'Yeah, but please just charge the room'. I'd have to forge a letter that says 'Please charge the room to the following CC'..

That said.. Again: Often enough we ask for a bill. In that case we tell the hotel: "Please send the bill for the stay (room/breakfast...) to company name, street, city". Is that hackable? Probably. It's a protocol that wasn't designed to protect against abuse. Just as I am able to send you emails from president@whitehouse.gov as long as I'm able to find an open smtp relay. That doesn't mean that everyone or even a significant number of people does it..


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In Australia they will charge anything unpaid that you use (minibar, room service, etc.) to the credit card you gave.

Often what happens here with corporate credit cards is that you have different cards for different people, even if they are coming out of the same account, and you can see all the transactions that each person made. So the company would ask questions when they see the extra charge.


Why is it "Aspie-myopia"? People with Aspergers are entirely capable of understanding that other people have different thoughts, expectations, emotions, minds. They sometimes (it's a spectrum which means that not all have the same symptoms) have difficulty understanding others' mental state from body language and other direct social clues but they understand that people have different opinions.

You are spreading misinformation, and potentially insulting people in a throw-away portion of your otherwise good point. You don't need to be on the spectrum to be myopic.


That sort of depends on your definition of "legitimate", but in my opinion, no.

I am fully aware that I make below market pay. Almost everyone (except for my developer co-ops, who I need to pay above market to be competitive in the local market) at the not-for-profit I work for does. It's not something that it hidden but our revenue comes from government money and membership fees that is best applied towards fulfilling our mandate so from a community perspective standpoint there is some degree of necessity.

There are other compensation factors though. There's some amount of profile enhancement (in a smallish pond), I've learned a ton, I get to work with a huge number of startups, I get to participate in any of the company-run events I want (and there's a lot).

To me, those are legitimate reasons for me to accept a salary under market value. But if we were a for profit the equation changes dramatically.

Salary is not the be all and end all for all (arguably most) people, and if it's within a certain percentage of market value, then other factors of compensation do make it worthwhile. Maybe you could get 10% more working in grey cubes but you wouldn't be working with those people, you wouldn't be part of a significant force in the geek culture world, and for some those trade offs are worth it.

What makes it stink for me is that I feel like PA could afford market rates, and they're not entirely because they know they don't need to be competitive in that regard, and to me that feels exploitative. They have a huge crowd of people willing to sacrifice some financial gain to be part of them, and they're going to take advantage of that.

It's reasonable from a business standpoint, I think it's even ethical, but it doesn't mean that it's a good thing.


The posting was linked by a tweet by Robert Khoo (https://twitter.com/rkhoo/status/405150202736418816) which was retweeted by several Penny Arcade staff.

Mike Krahulik participated in a few Twitter-based discussions. One indicates that this is a replacement posting (https://twitter.com/cwgabriel/status/405526125171843072).

That doesn't mean it's not real, it's certainly not above anyone at Penny Arcade to poke the hornet's nest, but there's enough indications that I think it's safe to say it's legit.


Khoo, the CEO (generally less in the public eye), is actually the third asshole. Krahulik and Holkins are the artist asshole and writer, respectively.

no comparable foot-in-mouth public displays of assholery, but if you think the other two are, you are very likely to think he is too


I am always willing to update the asshole registry.


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