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Yale Launches Expansion of the Department of Computer Science (yale.edu)
86 points by plg on March 31, 2015 | hide | past | favorite | 30 comments



"... seven faculty positions in the Department of Computer Science over the next few years, including two searches this year and three more next year ..."


Thank you. I wish every single article on the Internet had a tl;dr like this.


One of Jason Calacanis' latest projects is of use here: https://www.inside.com/ I find myself using the iOS app fairly frequently.


How I miss Summly, although this article likely wouldn't have been found there.


https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/yahoo-news-digest/id78498235...

Disclosure: I work for Yahoo, not on Summly/News digest however.


Thanks for the link! BTW I am really enjoying the apps that are coming out of Yahoo lately.


That's good to hear!


And fwiw, they currently appear to have somewhere between 20 and 27 professors in CS, depending on how you count people who have cross-appointments in multiple departments (some are clearly primarily CS, some primarily elsewhere, and some don't make it obvious from their website). So adding 7 is an expansion of ~25-35%.


(full disclosure: I'm a Yale EE grad working as a software engineer for the last 17 years in the valley).

The school has had an ambivalent relationship with applied sciences through its history. They considered closing the engineering departments in the early 90's when I was a student. I am glad to see the school investing in this area, even if it less out of intrinsic interest and more out of market demand and perceiving it as a growth area.


It is the same as NYU did in 70s. But now NYU merge NYU-Poly as its school of engineering.

I am always amazed at what criteria are used by school administrators to decide which departments to fund. It is very surprised to me as a foreigner born that U.S. doesn't need engineers from Ivy League....


The Ivy League is basically a historical accident. The US has a whole bunch of other incredibly strong engineering schools, from newer private institutions (Stanford, MIT, CMU) to top public schools (Berkeley, UCLA, Georgia Tech). (These are also perfectly competitive in other subjects from English to pure mathematics.)

Historically, engineering and CS was not a priority for the older Ivies, and it was never an issue for anyone else because there were so many strong alternatives.

This department expansion is certainly good for Yale, but the effect it will have on the top engineering education in the US as a whole is marginal.


Ivy League schools breed leaders not us over paid worker bees. Only engineers complain about working under non-engineers. Lawyers at law firms don't have that problem.


Well, no. In the US, lawyers can't work for non-lawyers; that is, they can't work in a position where their legal judgement is subject to review by a non-lawyer. Part of their code of professional responsibility.


How do you square that with General Counsels who report to the CEO/Board?


As a senior at Yale right now, and seeing what most of my fellow students are going into next year, the Ivy League is great at pumping out over paid worker bees. See here http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2012/02/13/finance-continues-t... for the numbers going into finance (~20%) and just anecdotally I would guess there are only slightly less going into consulting. Finally, there are a not insignificant number (maybe 10%) doing some sort of engineering.


That's true. Consultants and bankers are also overpaid worker bees.

Edit: but at least they report to other consultants and bankers.


I graduated from Harvard, and like chris_b said with Yale, a not insignificant number of people went into some sort of engineering. It's not the plurality career choice, but it's not like the field is some sort of pariah at Ivy League schools.


Because Ivy -> high social status

engineering -> relatively low social status


This is poor analysis. Princeton, Cornell, and Penn have had strong engineering programs for many decades now, and Brown has had a very strong competence in Applied Math.

Your broad brush strokes regarding "Ivies" and lawyers are just mugging for stereotypes.


NYU's case was somewhat forced by financial problems in the '70s. They had been maintaining two campuses for decades (one in the Bronx, and one in Manhattan), and in 1973 sold the Bronx campus along with some of the programs that were housed there (most notably Engineering), to try to sort out the budget problems. Nowadays NYU is overflowing with cash, so was able to "acquire" the former Brooklyn Poly to get back into engineering.


That's because the Ivy League engineers have come out of Germany, China, India, and ostensibly out of Russia and other ex-soviet block members.


It's worth mentioning that this is still bare minimum even compared to other Ivy League colleges. Harvard plans to expand their faculty by 12 members with Balmer's recent grant and Cornell is in the process of adding faculty for their new campus in New York City (Cornell Tech - which is basically a startup incubator).


This was overdue, but definitely a good announcement.

For people who think this is absurdly slow, I would point out that undergraduate enrollment in the department has grown 5-10x in the last four years. In 2011, I was in a four person class with a professor and a TA, and some core classes had <20 students. Now those same classes have well over 100 students. Top tier universities just can't react and find talented faculty that quickly.


Top tier universities just can't react and find talented faculty that quickly.

In a sense I think this is right—they can't, right now—but in another sense I think slow reaction times are a choice: they can react much faster but choose, for cultural and bureaucratic reasons, not to.

I'd also like to see universities move away from tenure-based hiring and towards long-term-contract-based hiring that effectively rewards strong instructors. Doing so may among other things alleviate some of the current slowness in university action.


> universities move away from tenure-based hiring and towards long-term-contract-based hiring

they already do, see the army of adjuncts


Slightly off-topic, but I think these are conservative figures:

"Top college computer science graduates may get as much as $120,000 from tech leaders such as search giant Google and social networking leader Facebook, according to Kai Fortney, marketing director for Hired, a Web-based employment service for the industry. Some new hires may receive signing bonuses of as much as $25,000, he says."

Anyone else find them somewhat low?


Yeah. Some of my friends have been given signing bonuses 4x that amount, and salaries > $150k.


given the previous bad press is this any surprise?






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