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My neighbor -- a very earnest, smart, progressive 27 year old working in alternative energy -- bought one just before the election. His deposit went in sometime in the spring.

He was super excited about it at first, but the spring in his step is much reduced now. I feel bad for him.

I mean, true life, I think most people have pretty good experiences with Teslas. The brand was pretty resilient vs. Elon's shenanigans until fairly recently, but now, man, whatever goodwill he had he's busily taken a flame thrower to. We'll probably go EV or hybrid for our next car, and there's no way in hell we'd consider a Tesla AT ALL.




> the spring in his step is much reduced now

Musk hasn't suddenly changed in the past few months. His deranged/racist behaviour has been going on for years. What has prompted your neighbour to regret his purchase?


The salute definitely upped things a level.


Somehow I don't think this question is being asked in good faith.

Remember, not everyone watches Musk like HN apparently does. I knew who he was, and wouldn't have bought one of his cars 5 years ago. But a 27 year old working outside tech and not invested in social media could easily miss the magnitude of his assholery.


I mean, I think it has become more _visible_. A few years back, you’d only really know about it if you were Very Online. It is now utterly impossible to ignore.


>Musk hasn't suddenly changed in the past few months.

Respectfully, that is a minority view.


Thank you for respectfully disagreeing. Will you elaborate so that I can hear a different perspective?


Are you actually serious?

Did you not happen to see him perform multiple nazi salutes on live TV, during the inauguration of the president of the world's largest economy?

That was Jan 21st. Before then, I was only aware that he was a bit of a dick online.

Now he's radioactive, and with very good reason. He's an evil person who I will do everything I can to not enable.


Yes, it was a serious question, because even before his public Nazi salutes, he already had a history of anti-Semitic tweets online, which were later widely reported in many media outlets, such as the BBC. (I don't use Twitter, and never have, and yet I was aware of his racist viewpoints.) Tesla factories in the USA were also known for poor treatment of black employees. Thus I didn't see his Nazi salutes as surprising behaviour. Shocking, yes, and very repehensible, but unfortunately not surprising.


I agree he's probably always been a piece of shit, but Nazi salutes on live TV at the inauguration is absolutely next level.




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