This. I see ads for DevOps roles as a signal that “this org doesn’t get it”.
DevOps is about people and culture. Your teams embrace automation, fail fast, lean — all the good stuff. DevOps is about concrete business outcomes. Not Ansible or bazel.
> hiring devops means you never understood, even vaguely, what devops was; you're just using a buzz word in your job ad.
I honestly don't get this thread and the complaining. Yes, I was one of those empowered engineers at an org that did ALL of the DevOps. But do ya'll seriously think you don't sometimes need people who do ONLY DevOps? Cause I can tell you there are absolutely orgs that deploy dozens, if not hundreds of servers sometimes by region and in those cases you absolutely do need full time DevOps engineers to tune, configure, and deploy these fleets. And yea it's a full time job just to do that.
Correct, except generally they aren’t even good at ops. They tend to know a highly specific slice, or how to operate an abstraction. But troubleshooting Linux? Good luck.
DevOps is about people and culture. Your teams embrace automation, fail fast, lean — all the good stuff. DevOps is about concrete business outcomes. Not Ansible or bazel.
> hiring devops means you never understood, even vaguely, what devops was; you're just using a buzz word in your job ad.
Yes!