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If that's your angle your most direct attack would have been questioning GGPs criticism of the Quality Inspection staff. It's telling you severely undercut your argument by searching child nodes of a parent thread for your pet disagreement rather than your true contention against GGP that assembly quality control wasn't the issue.

That is, the whole predication of GGP was quality inspection was a factor, which you baffling instead chose to only argue against here in selected predicated children (of course we probably know why).




Common knowledge is not “searching child nodes” - I mentioned MCAS because that’s what caused all of the deaths so far and it was due to poor management decisions. There’s similarly no indication that any of the safety issues in the news currently have anything to do with the workforce, and we know that could not be the case because this is a failure of the quality control system setup by Boeing’s management, not the workers. It’s hardly novel to note that a failure like this is a systemic problem - Deming was talking about that in regards to WWII manufacturing!


You had no issue with the shift quality inspection mention until the sanctity of the assembling unions were questioned, then magically your argument appears. Your aim is transparent. We know why you didn't attack the quality inspection number argument, even though it's the parent generalized counter to your position.


Dude, it would be far less embarrassing to admit you were being provocative and drop it than spiraling into the ground like this.

I don’t know why you’re so confidently wrong about my position on quality control but it’s irrelevant to the simple fact that all of the failures we’ve seen are the responsibility of Boeing’s management: even if the unionized assembly workers are caricatures straight out of union-busting propaganda, aerospace safety is famously based on the principle of not relying on a single safety mechanism, but in these reports we’re seeing systemic failures where cost savings was prioritized over safety.


What do unions have to do with this at all if it was spirit aero systems fucking it up?

Also from what I've seen the Boeing union has been raising alarm bells about... Literally exactly all of these little things that caused the quality issues

You're saying "we know" like a single person has agreed with your line of reasoning in this thread

Touch grass bruh. No idea what's got you so frothed up, but it's not constructive.


I urge you to read the comment guidelines for this forum, as you are clearly going against a number of them (e.g. "Assume good faith").

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html




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