Is paid MS Teams is more or less common than paid GSuite? It's hard to find stats on this. GSuite is the better product IMO, but MS has a stronger b2b reputation, and anecdotally I hear more about people using Teams.
Not to mention it integrates with Azure365, which damn near certainly the IT department has already standardized on, feels comfortable with, and has been flooded with enough propaganda to believe anything else is massively less secure. Plus Teams has tons of knobs and buttons for managing what your users do with it... and companies love managing their employees lol.
Sure, Teams is a steaming pile of crap to use day-to-day as a chat app, the search is slow and vague - and depending on policy, probably links you to messages that no longer exist in the archive lol. Oh you want to download message history? Nah gotta get an admin to do that bruh.
I'm in one nonprofit org using MS 365 and Teams, and listening to the guy behind the original decision talk about that ecosystem, I think its popularity really does come from propaganda. I was almost convinced until I actually used it... what a piece of junk. It's ugly for me and borderline unusable for our nontechnical users. I'm in charge now and considering ditching it.
The only saving grace is that members who can't deal with it are using local MS Office, which has some integrations with 365, thus making it kinda viable. But I feel like it's still a net negative.
Does anyone use paid GSuite for anything other than docs/drive/Gmail ? In all companies I've worked at, we've used GSuite exclusively for those, and used slack/discord for chat, and zoom/discord for video/meetings.
I know that MS Teams is a more full-featured product suite, but even at companies that used it, we still used Zoom for meetings.
Counterpoint: I take probably 3/4 of my meetings on Zoom and 1/4 on meet. So on any given day I'm probably doing at least 1 on meet. If I look back on any day at all the meetings with unaceptable audio lag or very degraded video quality? They are always all "meet". It is just hands-down worse when networks are unreliable.
In addition meet insists I click on the same about 4 or 5 different "Got it" feature popups every single call, and every call also insists on asking me if I want to use Duet AI to make my background look shit which just adds to annoyance.
It's a lot better than it used to be. In 2020, universities that already had GSuite (which includes Meet) still paid to put their classes on Zoom. Personally I like Zoom more today, mostly because even my high-end laptop can struggle with Meet.
If you have a problem there’s no one available to help you.
On the MS side they will literally pull an engineer who is writing the code for the product you have a problem for to help resolve the issue if you’re large enough.
The part you see in your browser isn’t the only part of the product a company has to buy. In fact, it’s not even the most expensive bit. If you see the most expensive plans for most SAAS products (ie the enterprise plans) almost the entire difference in costs is driven by support illustrating the importance and value of support.
Kinda. In 2006 they launched "Google Apps for your domain." The name quickly changed to "Google Apps" and then in 2016 it became "GSuite." In 2020 they changed the name to Google Workspace. And of course, in 2022 they tried to kick all of the free "Gsuite Legacy" users off the platform and make them pay for Google Workspace lol.
