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Steve Jobs was a visionary authoritarian with the resources, opportunities, and connections to make Apple happen.

Visionary authoritarians are dangerous to glorify.




I didn't intend to glorify him, only to defend my claim that he was an extreme outlier.


Glorification doesn't have to be intentional. Steve Jobs left a trail of havoc in the lives of the people he used to build Apple. He did objectively bad things to achieve objectively good things, so to speak. The good result is tightly coupled to a bad technique. Omitting the bad technique is tantamount to glorification.

The language in your posts is also very...enthusiastic?

Speaking of hard workers, have you read about Niklas Luhmann?


> Omitting the bad technique is tantamount to glorification.

The reason I left it out is not because I want to "glorify" him but rather that I have no specific knowledge of his "bad technique". All I know is that he had a reputation for being an asshole. I have no reason to doubt that this reputation was well deserved, but I don't have any specific knowledge one way or the other.

> The language in your posts is also very...enthusiastic?

I have no idea what that means. What does "un-enthusaistic" language look like?


They mean that you seem very eager to praise jobs.


What resources? Knowing Steve Wozniak and a garage?

As for dangerous to glorify - existing is dangerous - what of it?




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