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> if brute force didn't work, it just wasn't brute enough

Arguably, upgrading to explosives counts as 'more brute'




Canceled out by the smarter delivery. But I'm willing to allow HEI cannons instead of shrapnel shotguns.

I mean, obviously the dumbest, brutest thing would be the jet equivalent of Ben Hur's wheel spikes. Sharpened wings?


The missile they took it down with didn't have an explosive warhead. It was more like an arrow.


I've seen this claim several times in this thread, zero of them with a source. Meanwhile, the close-up video has clear evidence of a detonation. https://twitter.com/MikeSington/status/1621996717624393728


I've seen it speculated and took that for more than it was worth apparently: > https://newsrnd.com/news/2023-02-06-beyond-u-s--china-relati...

"Some military analysis also pointed out that the missile may not be equipped with a warhead, and the U.S. military only selected a favorable attack position after monitoring the balloon in the past few days."


I see no detonation here


https://imgur.com/a/y386kLU

The grey cloud is the explosion. Real-life missiles don't look like a Michael Bay movie, and the balloon almost certainly carried no jet fuel for combustion.


What makes you think that comes from a warhead and is not a reaction of the mixed gasses from the missle and balloon? I don’t even known but I suspect a warhead would not even detonate when piercing a balloon


> What makes you think that comes from a warhead and is not a reaction of the mixed gasses from the missle and balloon?

The balloon is full of helium, notable for being unreactive.

> I don’t even known but I suspect a warhead would not even detonate when piercing a balloon

Sidewinder missiles have a laser proximity fuze. They detonate just fine.


How do you know that the balloon is using helium instead of cheaper and more buoyant hydrogen?


1. Because it's unlikely.

2. Because it doesn't reallly matter; the "how did the missile detonate" question is readily answerable, and all that gas in the balloon is well above the impact site and smoke cloud.

The parent poster expressed disbelief because of an entirely incorrect assumption about how missiles work.


How is it unlikely?

Hydrogen is a more common choice than helium for unmanned balloons. Only 12 of 101 weather balloon launch sites operated by the US's national weather service use helium[1], and that's with unusually cheap helium access in the US. I would expect other countries to use helium even less frequently.

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2022/04/04/weather-ba...


We can conclusively settle the missile warhead question.

https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/...

> GEN. VANHERCK: Yeah, absolutely. There was a warhead in the missile. You can see that explosion on TV as it goes through the lower part of the balloon and right there through the superstructure.




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