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It’s not only people moving further inland. It’s people moving from places that are hot now, and unlivable hot soon. And the movement will continue for several decades, but i wouldn’t be shocked to see a hundred million people move in one year before 2050. Minimize it all you want, it’s going to happen and you will be impacted by it if you live long enough to see it.

As for your snarky “citation needed” - this is all easily googlable stuff. I’d start with understanding what “trophic collapse” means.

https://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/Ocean+Acidification's+im...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/06/03/...

https://medium.com/predict/the-jellyfish-apocalypse-4f77770e...




> Minimize it all you want, it’s going to happen and you will be impacted by it if you live long enough to see it.

My body is ready.

> I’d start with understanding what “trophic collapse” means.

I understand what it means. What I'm asking for is a credible source that predicts how this would happen. None of your sources come close. Let's see...

> https://www.pmel.noaa.gov/co2/story/Ocean+Acidification's+im...

A dire revenue warning for the non-farmed shellfish industry:

"Sarah Cooley studies the socioeconomic impacts of altered oceans at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts. She and other researchers project acidification could reduce U.S. shellfish harvests by as much as 25 percent over the next 50 years."

> https://medium.com/predict/the-jellyfish-apocalypse-4f77770e...

Jellyfish Apocalypse? Postponed until further notice:

"Many citations of this paper assume that she found conclusive proof that the jelly apocalypse was happening. This dangerously bad science got so out of hand that during a conference in 2011, over half the scientists in attendance said that the jelly apocalypse is happening. Mills herself was at the event, and she voted no. Since then, many scientists have gone over the data with a fine toothcomb and concluded that the data could be misinterpreted as an increase in jelly numbers. Marina Sanz-Martin was one of these scientists, and she concluded that others had manipulated the data to get funding."

> https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/06/03/...

There's no mention of the climate in this article, at all. Rather...

"The oceans are stretched, and certain fish species are approaching depletion. Leading scientists project that if we continue to fish this way, without allowing our oceans time to recover, our oceans could become virtual deserts by 2050"


Regarding your last reference on jellyfish, the author is "[a] Journalist passionate about cutting edge technology, space and fighting climate change."

A quote:

For a long time the scientific consensus was that we are causing a jelly Armageddon and that we need to stop it before our oceans’ ecosystems collapse. Scientists have suggested we change our eating habits and start fishing and eating jellies. Some even thought we should geoengineer the ocean to have more nutrients and oxygen so that the jelly’s predators could grow in number to fight off the hordes of these squishy devils. In his incredible documentary ‘Blue Planet II’, David Attenborough suggested that we should set aside a third of the world’s oceans as marine reserves, where human activity is banned, to help fish stocks recover and to rebalance the ecosystems.

So, an interesting article, but obviously alarmist.


Not sure which part of that quote means it shouldn't be taken seriously. I sure wish the person yelling "fire" in this crowded theater that's quickly filling with smoke wasn't so alarmist.




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