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All leaders of the EU are elected. Either by direct vote, vote of the member states, or vote of the member states with approval of directly elected EU parliament.


That's like arguing the Supreme Court or the Federal Reserve is elected, since eventually their appointing bodies are - somewhere down the line.


There are different power dynamics at play. First of all EU is not a state, not even a federal state, but an union of the member states.

The main political power in EU resides with the member states.

Most of EU countries are parliamentary democracies where executives are not directly elected.

EU Commission is an executive body for the member states with regard to the competences granted to EU by the member states.

EU Commission is confirmed by EU Parliament and can be also dismissed by EU Parliament in vote of no confidence.

USA is a presidential democracy where a lot of power resides with a single person.

Supreme Court Judge in USA is appointed for life and is supposed to be independent from the rest of the power structures.


Not really, the commissionners are mostly unelected officials, and while the council represent the interests of elected head of state, those sieging are not always elected officials.

Granted, the commissioners do not have a lot of power (they have less effective power than the parliament as long as the subject isn't trade and economic competition) but still.


When did people vote for President von der Leyen?


She was elected on 16th of July 2019 by the EU Parliament. There were 383 votes in favour of her nomination, 327 against and 22 abstentions.

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/hearings2019/commissi...

The EU Parliament elections by the direct citizens vote were on 23–26 May 2019.

Her election is really not much different than election of any other prime minister / executive in parliamentary democracies.

The only difference is that the president of the EU Commission is proposed by the member states.


That’s an odd example, since she wasn’t even up for election, she was “nominated”. At least two German political parties complained about backroom deals and an undemocratic process.


She was proposed by EU Council and then elected by the parliament exactly as specified by the treaty:

> Taking into account the elections to the European Parliament and after having held the appropriate consultations, the European Council, acting by a qualified majority, shall propose to the European Parliament a candidate for President of the Commission. This candidate shall be elected by the European Parliament by a majority of its component members. If he does not obtain the required majority, the European Council, acting by a qualified majority, shall within one month propose a new candidate who shall be elected by the European Parliament following the same procedure.

Article 17(7) Treaty on European Union (TEU)

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL...

To be honest, I don't even know what is the legal basis of the whole lead candidate idea. Do you know?


Right, the people don't vote for the president. If the people are allowed to vote, people vote for change - Brexit, Trump.

The people have little influence in what is being forced on them. I suspect this will end with some EU member States going their own way, after the people demand it.


Trump never had a majority vote for him in the US. So that case is very similar to the indirect voting you’re talking about wrt von der Leyen




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