Are you saying their products are beautiful, or ugly crap? It seems ambiguous which one is referring to Apple.

Beauty is subjective.

Good art is not necessarily beautiful. I suspect there's more interesting potential for art/tech collaboration not in the beautiful parts, but in the ability to create something thought provoking.

I meant Apple makes beautiful products.

Huh. I took my iPhone out of it's case. I dunno, it is really just a glass rectangle with a bit of metal around the edge.

I mean, they are fine devices, but fairly boring and utilitarian.

I wouldn't call Apple products that, but I agree their design is overhyped.

While I will never buy another new Apple computer; I've always liked the look of most of their products unless my finances improve.

Would I rather have a ugly product, that I could repair----hell yes.

I thought some of Palm products back in the day were beautiful. I loved my Palm TX. I loved the look, and feel of the product.

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