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I don't think this is something that's over-represented in China at all.

For a start, many of the Chinese factories making low-quality, cheap goods are instructed by Western IP holders to do so. You see the same thing in many industries no matter where they're manufactured - textiles is the biggest example that springs to mind, but fast food would be another. Hell, I reduce quality to minimise costs in my business (second-hand games; we'll bundle third-party controllers with the console because the consumer doesn't care, and sell the genuine item separately at a premium).

At the status-grabbing level, look at the number of Indian students graduating with CompSci/IT degrees that can't even write FizzBuzz. Look at all of the upper-middle-class white people in the West who get their below-average intelligence children into bullshit middle management positions just so they can boast about their child being high-status at dinner parties. Look at all of the "entrepreneurs" out there who take outrageous risks with their parents' money and are actively encouraged to do so "because at least they're doing something with their life". Look at your local members of parliament. Look at Facebook and Google. Look at your friendly neighbourhood OnlyFans thot.

Everyone is gaming the system, not just the Chinese.



I've experienced the opposite. All the western brands made in china are reasonably good and sometimes excellent. Meanwhile any chinese brand is awful.


Indian education is based on rote memorization. That is why they think they can memorize their way to a degree in CS, and end up graduating while still not being able to program. So yes that one is another systemic problem.

I live in the West and not sure I've ever even been to a bona fide dinner party. How does one get a grown child into a middle management position? You mean nepotism?

Over-represented means more than elsewhere. Not something you can disprove with some examples.

I have also worked with the Chinese, and yes in my experience they are much more likely to try and be "clever" by putting something over on you than others. Japanese are very different people to deal with. Part of it surely is that China is developing and the lines are still blurry in acceptable business behavior. But I think their history (of eliminating capitalism then having to rebuild a culture of it from scratch) plays a role too.


What you're seeing is that entrepreneurs are scrappy and sketchy, and the US has much fewer small entrepreneurs than in the past. We do our ripoff scams at scale in big corporations with lots of "innocent" employees getting paid.


> For a start, many of the Chinese factories making low-quality, cheap goods are instructed by Western IP holders to do so. You see the same thing in many industries no matter where they're manufactured - textiles is the biggest example that springs to mind, but fast food would be another.

Exactly this. It's not the Chinese factories that choose the quality level of the product - it's the companies that design and order them. Yes, the factories can and will cheat if they think they can get away with it, but roughly - they'll produce things at the quality level they're ordered to and paid to produce. The deluge of crap on the West is and always has been the fault of the Western companies that commission their production.

(And as a somewhat obvious proof of that point: all the high-quality stuff we buy and use? Almost all of it is made in China too.)


"risks with their parents' money and are actively encouraged to do so "because at least they're doing something with their life"

Well it does beat spending that money on drugs and hookers


They aren't mutually exclusive


Wait how does streaming video content to consensually paying customers consumers bear any resemblance to the cheating and scamming you listed?




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