2nd amendment vs. 4th amendment. Why is one more important than the other ? once there is a precedent to bypass the 4th ? I just think it is something to think about. I get it that it is not a perfect analogy.

Most people aren't going to just come out and say that they think one amendment is more important than another. They will just interpret each amendment to be compatible with their beliefs. Someone who proposes stricter gun control will interpret the 2nd amendment as a reference only to militias, or they might argue that there is a gun death epidemic in the US that is worth a "small" violation of the 2nd amendment. Similarly, someone who approves of the government's ability to decrypt a phone might argue that the threat of terrorist is worth a "small" violation of the 4th amendment.

> precedent to bypass the 4th

You mean like a search warrant?

That's a pretty old precedent...........

What does a search warrant have to do with this controversy?

You are asking me what a search warrant has to do with the 4th amendment? I think you are equipped to answer that yourself.

No, I'm asking what a search warrant has to do with whether Apple can be required to modify the software of an iPhone under the All Writs Act.

A search warrant is not in any way a bypass of the 4th amendment.

The 4th uses the term "unreasonable" quite specifically in regards to the right to privacy.

It also has no specific stipulations for the deceased, who by definition almost don't have a right to privacy.

Yeah, I agree. I was only criticizing the analogy (which I fumbled), because privacy itself is a very complex topic without involving it with gun rights.

In the Unites States, yes.

I personally do not hold this opinion, but many gun owners see gun ownership as an inalienable right and any attempt to limit or take it away as a violation of privacy and overreaching by the government.

I agree. To me the relationship is government over reach. I think it is too much to ask Apple to write a back door into their product. I can see getting a warrant to look at phone records etc. I am a gun owner but not fanatical, I am ok with some reasonable controls. The key in both cases, 2nd and 4th amendment restrictions is reasonableness. But that is always in the eye of the beholder, hence the controversy.