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Hopefully the end user of these products know something about LLMs and why asking a question such as "List the college majors of all of the Fortune 100 CEOs" is not really suited well for them.


Perhaps you can enlighten us as to why this isn't a good use case for an LLM during a deep research workflow.


LLMs ought to be able to gracefully handle it, but the OP comment


Urgh I fat-fingered this partial comment, and realized it too late.


For those that don't know, including myself, why would this question be particularly difficult for an LLM?


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You are a bit behind. All the "deep research" tools, and paid AI search tools in general, combine LLMs with search. When I do research on you.com it routinely searches a 100 sites. Even Google searches get Gemini'd now. I had to chuckle because your very link provides a demonstration.


> You are a bit behind.

Quite the opposite. I'm familiar enough with these systems to know that asking the question "List the college majors of all Fortune 100 CEOs" is not going to get you a correct answer, Gemini and you.com included. I am happy to be proven wrong. :)


But the whole point of these “deep research” models is to.. you know.. do research.

LLMs by themselves have not been good at this, but the whole point is to find a way to make them good.


If you know more than others, it would be great to share some of what you know, so the rest of us can learn. Comments that only declare how much you know, without sharing any of it, are less useful, and ultimately off-topic.

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OpenAI and Gemini literally produce the correct results.

It seems like you don't understand or haven't tried their deep research tools.


Perplexity markets itself as a search tool. So even if LLMs are not search engines, Perplexity definitely is trying to be one.


Hopefully my boss groks how special I am and won't assign me tasks I consider to be beneath my intelligence (and beyond my capabilities).


If "deep research" can't even handle this, I don't think I would trust it with even more complex tasks


Working on weapons is important to maintain the freedom to be disappointed in others working on weapons.


Freedom for whom?


What do you mean?


Whose freedom is maintained by working on weapons projects?


does this apply to genocide too?


Well, to be fair, the engineers working on this system have been thinking about the accuracy this whole time even if you haven't. Even on the first go, it still had to land on a relatively small pad floating in the ocean.


The fact that someone tried is significant. We've had 50+ years of not trying.


As impressive as the space efforts in the 60s and 70s were, I've often thought that they were a false start created by a war-like impetus to show off. Tech-wise, we really weren't ready for a space age. The sort of control systems that make this sort of outcome possible haven't been around for all that long, really, especially if you mark them from being economical and not just "it technically existed in a lab somewhere". Plus if you really dig into how these rockets are built and maintained, you see a lot of other technologies that have not been around for that many decades, like, practical and reliable 3D printing, and computing simulations that have more computational power per second than the entire computing world could scrape together in a year in the 1960s, and those are just the highlights, not the exhaustive list.

A lot of people are like "we got to the moon in the 1960s, where's the progress we should have had since then?" but I see the 1960s as the bizarre exception rather than the thing that should be used to set the rule. There was no way the space age was going to happen then, in an era where you're almost sitting there counting each bit of RAM you can afford to send into space. The true Space Age is just dawning now, and it's still early in the dawn; we still have to have massive international cooperation to put a single space station up, we can't do something as basic as refuel in orbit, we just barely started having people in space for commercial rather than governmental reasons... it's just the beginning.


I think it's not so much that we weren't ready for a space age tech-wise, but that the the reason we have so much of our technology today is because of investments made in the 1960s. NASA had basically unlimited money to throw at every technical challenge in the way of landing a human on the moon.

The apollo program drove the need for more computational power, more memory, better guidance and navigation and control systems, better materials, experiments to better understand many phenomena, etc. And after the apollo program ended, the contractors that developed those technologies on NASA contracts could just commercialize them. And the data from experiments, on materials, aerodynamics, combustion, and so on, that is publicly available has made engineering so much cheaper and easier.


I think the 60’s showed how much humans can achieve in terms of innovating with very little (in terms of tech). Now, we’re seeing how much can be achieved with a whole lot more. And, I agree, the space age really does feel like it’s only just heating up. Very exciting time!


> There was no way the space age was going to happen then, in an era where you're almost sitting there counting each bit of RAM you can afford to send into space.

And yet, they got to space. Better computers are not the solution to every problem. And it wasn't a false start. We are already in a space age, we have been for quite a while. It didn't stop at Apollo. We have satellites for the military, TV, weather, various forms of communication, navigation (GPS...), telescopes, space stations, probes and rovers. We do science, commercial and government operations. Starlink is great, but it is just the continuity of all the space communication abilities we developed over the years.

I think computers are not what will enable the "true space age". Sure, they help, and SpaceX, if successful with their Starship will certainly be a big advance, but I think that we are missing a key ingredient to reach the "true space age" and it is nuclear power. Starship maybe could get us a settlement on Mars with hundreds if not thousands of launches and refueling missions. Project Orion was to launch an entire colony in one go, return trip included. Even Saturn was considered feasible. Project Orion is mad, but it goes to show how limiting chemical rockets are compared to nuclear.

And it is something we probably could have done already, without modern computers and 3D printing, if we wanted to. It is maybe a good thing that we didn't though. Spreading radioactive material in the atmosphere and mass producing thermonuclear bombs is kind of scary.


Literally decades of missile / guided bomb development placing warheads within cms of their target.


It's in nobodies best interest to do this especially when there is so much money at play.


A bit ironic for a non-profit


Everyone involved works at and has investments in a for-profit firm.

The fact that it has a structure that subordinates it to the board of a non-profit would be only tangential to the interests involved even if that was meaningful and not just rhe lingering vestige of the (arguably, deceptive) founding that the combined organization was working on getting rid of.


As I understand they are going to be stop being non-profit soonish now?


I suspect you're overthinking it. Consider the difference between someone wanting to know the technical specifications of an iPhone and the electrical engineer wanting to know the technical specifications of a resistor they want to use to build the iPhone. The marketing efforts for the iPhone and resistor should be different. Replace "electrical engineer" with anything you want and it still can work, for instance, how about a marketing person that wants to know the specifications of some cardboard materials when designing the product box for the iPhone. No longer engineering but the marketing for the cardboard will probably look more like the resistor than the iPhone.

It's really the product and it's intended use case that's driving the audience, which the link is just generalizing to "engineer".


EE and CS are both going to be where the "rubber meets the road", or the application of these concepts, especially at the BS/MS level. Specifically in classes covering things like communication codecs, video/image processing, signal processing, and compression. If you're interested more in the foundations of these ideas, you really need to look more towards pure math. For instance, the beginning of every coding book I own starts with a review of abstract algebra, and lot of signal processing ideas are built on top of complex analysis.


Thanks. That's very encouraging, I'm about to begin a bachelor's in pure math!

Could you recommend some of the books you mentioned?


Seeing 2 consumer CPU generations in a row not only support but improve AVX512 capabilities will hopefully go a long ways towards regaining the confidence of the developers that use AVX512 in the consumer space. I know I personally have been holding back as I watched Intel fumble AVX512 for the last 10 years. With their even more recent fumbles there could be a near future where AMD CPUs have majority market share in both desktop and mobile. Great news for developers that can use AVX512.


Agreed. My current best-case-scenario hope is that the success of the Zen4/5/etc processors will force Intel to adapt their strategy towards AMDs, and finally move us out of the avx512 mess they've segmented us into.


Assuming Intel is changing direction right now, unfortunately they will face 2-3 years of latency to implement that.


In an ESOP, stocks are not normally fungible and cannot be traded easily. Usually they are bought back post employment. In my case I was able to either get cash or have it put into a 401k.


In an ESOP, employees typically own 100% of the stock.


> As to why Mormons tend to be so into it, I have a theory.

No need to theorize, the rapture plays a big role in their canon, and is proselytized heavily.


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