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Maybe showcase what games a user can play before signing up.


Good idea!


What apps? Just curious


Lightroom 4 in my case – I've switched to CaptureOne with Adobe's Cloud-only move, but I have a library of old photos that I still need to access from time to time.


For me, Macromedia Fireworks CS4. It does everything I need, so I don't feel like upgrading to Adobe's new cloud subscription plans.


> Macromedia Fireworks CS4

Wow. I have fond memories of FW (in a job far far away).

I'd have _thought_ one of the alternative (i.e. non Adobe) vector apps that came out would be able to replace it though? No? (I'm not a designer by any means, I just happened to fall into a role where I ended up doing some really basic CRUD app UI design work because they had no one else).


“New” subscription plans, started almost eight years ago.

I assume Fireworks runs adequately in your setup but it’s not like that’s your only alternative to a subscription, there’s the Affinity products, Pixelmator, GIMP of course, and I’m sure others that run natively.


MS Office 2011 comes to mind. There are also many macOS games that are 32-bit and were never updated.


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Is Facebook messenger not available in the browser?


Not really. Have you tried it? It doesn't really work.

I can't even figure out how to use it from my mobile device without installing an app.


> I can't even figure out how to use it from my mobile device without installing an app.

I believe that's deliberate. The mobile web version of Facebook used to support personal messaging. In 2016 they removed it in an effort to push people onto the app.

https://techcrunch.com/2016/06/03/facebook-is-disabling-mess...


You can still use messaging on the basic mobile site, https://mbasic.facebook.com, which doesn't even need Javascript.


Unfortunately, that's not my experience.

Going to https://mbasic.facebook.com/messages gets me the following:

> Your Page's Inbox is not currently available in the > Facebook app or mobile web browsers. You can access > your messages through a desktop browser, or by > downloading Facebook Business Suite or Messenger > from the app store.

In one comment on HN[0], a user suggested:

> You may need to access the page by clicking a link > from another mbasic page in order to have some kind > of checksum in the URL.

Another user replied that they were able to get access to the page with that method[1], but I haven't been able to replicate it.

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25402316 [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25402354


That's weird... I have tried it (I use it a lot on PC) and it works just fine.

It even has some extra features, like LaTeX support.

I guess you mean it doesn't work on mobile browsers? (Never tried that)


PC is different. They deliberately removed messaging from the mobile web interface, see my reply to konspence.


Messaging was still available for a long time through mbasic.facebook.com up until very recently.

They removed that feature at the time their last big messenger outage happened.

messenger.com still works on Android Firefox as long as you switch to desktop mode.

Not sure for how long though, as it looks as if they are constantly sabotaging their platform. ..and it shows: Facebook Messenger feels far less relevant than maybe ten years ago.

In my German peer group everyone now uses either WhatsApp or Signal for private and Teams+email for work related communication.


Still works for me, unless they’ve taken it down in the last couple of hours..:


mbasic.faceook.com

It’s basic (like it says on the tin) but it works. I use it to avoid having to install the app, for all of them reasons discussed.


Bust myths with science. Than people can point to bro.science/mythical-topic


With subdomains: drunk.bro.science, sad.bro.science, single.bro.science...


I approve :D


damn! the subdomain idea is genius! :)


Wow that's a good point! bro.science/TOPIC is an interesting way to have a laugh at some common bro-sciency ideas out there :)


Not available in my country :-(


where you from?


Im also from The Netherlands. I don't use whatsapp at all... (for me its a bliss and removes the group chats insanity)

iMessage and Telegram covers everyone I know.


That explains all the new Telegram contacts :P


It makes me sad those aren't new Signal users :(


I know Telegram is less secure and Secret Chats are an opt-in. Security-wise Signal would be better... but:

Signal experience isn't that good. Alien from the platform they run on. For example, no system recommendations to send this person a message or share something with them through signal.. Telegram is more a platform native and integrated into the system.

Also there is the issue of messages arriving late (not minutes but hours late, sometimes days late)


I can share to Signal or contacts-via-Signal, and have been for years... I think this is a you problem.

Signal is honestly fantastic as a SMS-replacement app. It sends Signal messages to contacts with Signal and normal SMS to contacts without (Telegram might do the same thing, being able to set it as your default SMS app, I'm not sure).


In Brazil this is a GREAT reason to NOT use it.

In fact phone operators for a while tried to ban whatsapp here, SMS prices in Brazil are just nuts (it is normal for an SMS cost fifty cents or so, sometimes even more, a full SMS conversation can cost you several days worth of food).

Everyone here just uses whatsapp, because of how ridiculous SMS prices are.


It must be a market difference. Here in north america, SMS is the "default" way you message new contacts, and the majority of chats I have with people are over SMS. SMS is free and unlimited on virtually every phone plan available.


Yeah I see the statement a lot on international forums like HN and Reddit of "SMS is still a thing? No one uses it!" But it's highly cultural. I only use WhatApp for two friends in Europe. Most of my friends here in the US use Facebook Messenger for our group chats. My iPhone-using friends use iMessage, but if I'm communicating with an Android-using friend, it's just plain SMS. I prefer more robust platforms but I also send hundreds of plain SMS messages each month. It's just easier than trying to figure out if they're on WhatsApp, Messenger, Signal, Discord, Telegraph, Hello/Allo/Duo/etc... everyone has SMS and everyone has a phone number so it's the lowest friction way to communicate.

That's what I love about these forums, is getting the cultural experiences of other people and finding out they're not always the same as your experiences. Very eye-opening.


People still use SMS? At least in Colombia no one ever writes an SMS. For the same reasons.


I don't see why it would be a reason not to use it. Just don't set it as your default SMS app.


Maybe not clear enough normal sharing works yes.. but recommendations of persons to share with in the system share sheets are not working.

https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/iphone_...


On android, I see signal right next to all of the other messaging apps when sharing a photo or some other type of supported file.


Maybe not clear enough normal sharing works yes.. but recommendations of persons to share with in the system share sheets are not working.

https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/iphone_...


Exactly. Signal appears in Android's share feature. I have a friend group on it where we send each other funny images and I never had any problems sharing to the group from Chrome or apps.


Signal needs to up its game. The experience is very far from being as polished as Telegram.


I wish Telegram secret conversations carried over to multiple devices. This is a thing I don't have to worry about with Signal or WhatsApp.



WhatsApp secret conversations don't carry either over multiple devices if you don't activate sync with google drive (which kind of defeats the purpose of encryption anyway).


that tells you a little something about how their encryption keys work :)


Yup. I used Signal for several years but moved away from it. It just was not a great product.


Is Signal's desktop experience still an electron app?


Yep, it's still terrible, and still refuses to load non-encrypted messages for you.


I just got onto Telegram this week and was pleasantly surprised to see completely native apps across iOS, iPadOS and a full featured native Mac OS X app.


I wish Signal didn't require a phone number, otherwise everything else about it is nice. I don't want to be required to have a phone number, let alone provide it to them.


I'll switch to signal when they have reproducible builds on iOS.


Oh, don't worry the Windows client is still crap as well. A few months ago I couldn't even launch from the Start menu and install was hanging until I found some obscure reference to deleting registry keys, a process which I haven't had to do for years.

Back in the old days I was in the registry daily.


A quick check didn't lead me to a single reproducible iOS app. What are you currently using?


Block it on your network or on your device


What is your business model?


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