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What's vtubing?


The act of being a vtuber where vtuber means "virtual youtuber". Essentially youtubers or streamers in general who don't show their face but instead use an animated character model that is controlled by the user's face and/or body.

Some fancier vtubers use mocap suits for this but generally it's done with phone or desktop based face tracking software. That then maps to control inputs for manipulating the rigged model.

Examples:

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELjB3xWC3F0

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=944BE6_Brks

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxKH3EsI4dM

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e818LgnJ9rI


That last video was pretty interesting with the side-by-side, showing how things are re-calibrated, etc.

I figured that being a vtuber wasn't cheap, but that's a lot of (expensive looking) gear on top of the cost of the software, model, etc.


It really does depend. If you are doing full mocap with a rig it gets super expensive.

If you are doing basic 3d you more or less just need a VR setup with hand and feet tracking (still not cheap).

The cheapest hardware wise is your standard face tracking Live2D system. Pretty much just need an iphone (commonly used because they have good face tracking natively) or a webcam based face tracker.

The thing that really makes vtubing expensive is the cost of getting a model. If you aren't making it all yourself, those commissions for the design and then the rigging can very quickly go from a few thousand dollars to well over 10k.

And that video specifically is code miko. Her setup is one of the most expensive setups I've seen to be honest. She built the system herself however nowadays I think she pays a dedicated engineer to develop and maintain tooling for her bespoke setup. It's certainly not normal compared to most vtubers.

Hardware-wise most vtubers don't have much more than a good microphone, a gaming PC, and an iphone (which is much easier to achieve than the setup code miko has)


We have a word for that: avatar. And if it needs to be more specific: animated avatar.


Avatar is used synonymously with profile picture. If I said I had an "avatar," the last thing you would think of is a fully rigged and mocapped 2d/3d avatar. Notice how I had to qualify the word avatar there ("animated avatar" is hardly specific enough), hence why it has its own name: vtuber.

Get over it. You keep complaining about the word vtuber in this thread, but it's an extremely common and popular term with a whole damn industry behind it.


Did you complain about using the word avatar when you found out they weren't an actual embodiment of a god?


The term virtual youtuber comes from japanese for what it's worth. It's a loan word of a loan word. It's the term that is used.

And avatar is used in the space. They are "formally" called vtuber avatars or vtuber models. But the occupation/hobby is called vtubing and a person who uses them is a vtuber.

It's not that avatar isn't used. It's just not specific enough to what this is. vtubing rigs specifically aren't exactly general purpose. Some of them are and work as avatars that can be used with mocap or vrchat or whatever but a lot of them just aren't. A lot of them are "Live2D" which is a much more restricted type of model that is effectively various different transform and distortion effects on 2d images to give the perception of 3d motion.

Avatar covers a lot of things. Vtubers are a very specific subculture. They have avatars/models but to just call them avatars sells them quite a bit short of what they are specifically.


This comment, and the fact that you had to make this point twice (three times actually!) in this thread, is some real "old man yells at cloud" energy.

There is nuance to the term that "avatar" doesn't remotely capture. Language is ever-evolving. Keep up with the times, or ignore it. But yelling about going backwards is a waste for you to type and a waste for everyone to read.


> VTuber (Japanese: ブイチューバー, Hepburn: BuiChūbā) or virtual YouTuber (バーチャルユーチューバー, bācharu YūChūbā) is an online entertainer who uses a virtual avatar generated using computer graphics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_YouTuber


"a virtual avatar generated using computer graphics"

So... an avatar. Let's all agree not to use this stupid "VTuber" term.


“Vtuber” refers to the the virtual persona but also the real person behind the avatar, cf. “Youtuber”, “blogger”. And “avatar” is a much less specific and less informative term than “vtuber”. And anyway the street finds its own names for things.


Well, "the street" also huffs glue.


Yeah, no. We will continue calling it VTuber whether you like it or not. You're also wrong.


Except you haven't managed to show how. So... continue pushing ignorant blather.


They can borrow and repay from the US' future revenues under Danish management :-)


Thank you!


True! Thanks for the bug report, I'll try to make the exponent rings larger.


It only uses the +1 for prime numbers. 100,001 is not prime.

This rule ensures that there is a unique representation for every number.


Fantastic! Thank you for explaining this.


The idea came out of an attempt to represent numbers without having to choose an arbitrary base, i.e. an alternative to the place value system.

Just to be clear, this is an art project with no practical use that I can think of. It's hard to count using these numbers, but factoring them is trivial.


Is there anything in judgement that limits this to cryptocurrency?

I could see this precedent being used to shut down open source projects in end-to-end encryption, BitTorrent, etc.

While I have no knowledge of Tornado Cash itself, I hope an organization like the EFF would help appeal this to mitigate the larger danger. I believe there are precedents that publishing source code is protected under the first amendment (code is writing).

This is distinct from operating a service.


This, by the way, is another thing I dislike about crypto. The obvious need to regulate it could jeopardise the fragile consensus we currently have on private e2ee communication being allowed.

In other words, the reckless behaviour of today's crypto operators could lead to a fresh round of the 1990's crypto wars (when "crypto" meant cryptography), but with a different (worse) outcome.


I’m just glad this isn’t a US court ruling. USA has a strange habit of enforcing its laws overseas - see the Kim Dotcom debacle where US laws were used to prosecute someone who was not a US citizen and never set foot in the USA.


The terms Global South and North have been around since the 1960s, and they denote the country's socioeconomic position, not geographic location. It's jargon used by organizations working on developmental economics, and as with any jargon it is more precisely defined than "poor country".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_North_and_Global_Sout...

While it's jargon, I'd have thought it was a fairly common and well understood jargon. Even if you haven't encountered these terms before, I'm not sure why you find them offensive. Are you opposed to fields of study adopting jargon to aid communication?


> The terms Global South and North have been around since the 1960s, and they denote the country's socioeconomic position, not geographic location. It's jargon used by organizations working on developmental economics, and as with any jargon it is more precisely defined than "poor country".

To me, the jargon term "Global South" seems inferior to in all respects to the much more common term "3rd World." Whatever minor confusion is caused by the latter term's origin in Cold War geopolitics [1], is far less than the obvious prejudice and nonsense baked into the former [2].

[1] 3rd world pretty much means poor now, and no one's going to be tripped up by its original meaning of "non-aligned."

[2] Australia and New Zealand are in the South, Kyrgyzstan and Mongolia are in the North. Is the former populated by poors and latter rich, wealthy and developed?


To you, sure, the term is not as useful. But to the people involved in academia and politics, the jargon is useful.

You can keep using words you prefer, language is adaptable like that. But the jargon used in those circles developed for a reason, which may not be obvious to those outside or who don't follow as closely.

And yes, Cold War geopolitics and confusion around non aligned were a factor in the evolution of the language here. First world implies something about the relationship with the U.S. even to this day. The Cold War wasn't that long ago, and the political alliances haven't drifted that much since then. An old first world country like Chile might also be developing.


> To you, sure, the term is not as useful. But to the people involved in academia and politics, the jargon is useful.

In what way exactly is "Global South" more useful than "3rd World" to "people involved in academia and politics"?

Sometimes jargon is necessary, but sometimes it's just fashion.

Also, in no way is jargon fixed. If I recall correctly, hundreds of bird species are slated to be officially renamed for political reasons. And just look at how many jargon terms there have been "in academia and politics" for Americans descended from Africans: negro, black, African-American, Black, etc. I see no good reason why a foolish term like "Global South" can't be abolished as well, for reasons of clarity.


I'm not saying it's good, I'm saying it's not the same as "developing" or "third world". It's a set of countries with a unique set of characteristics that happen to mostly fall into the south. If you've got a better name, I'm sure folks would love to hear one.


My dad works in international development. Our thanksgivings were 95% USAID people and the like. I never ran across the term until recently. Your link confirms that it’s not technical jargon, but rather a political activist euphemism that’s crossed over only recently:

> Carl Oglesby used the term "global south" in 1969, writing in Catholic journal Commonweal in a special issue on the Vietnam War. Oglesby argued that centuries of northern "dominance over the global south […] [has] converged […] to produce an intolerable social order.” … It appeared in fewer than two dozen publications in 2004, but in hundreds of publications by 2013.

> Are you opposed to fields of study adopting jargon to aid communication?

“LDC” is jargon, established for decades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Least_developed_countries. It’s precise and connotes the thing it’s talking about: economic development. “Global south” is an activist trick to take a neutral economic label and inject the notion of political struggle between geographic areas.


The simple and unsatisfying answer is that the board is responsible for these decisions, and the board should be constituted in accordance with each company's articles.

My point is that there is nothing inevitable about the board representing the interests of shareholders alone. A typical company where the shareholders appoint most or all of the directors is not the only way to set up a board, and I'd argue that there are legitimate reasons to set up a company where other stakeholders (e.g. employees [1][2] or customers [3]) appoint directors.

Also, consider this: There is a risk/return continuum between bondholders and shareholders (through holders of various other convertible and preferred securities). It is always an arbitrary decision as to where to draw the line separating investors who get a say and those who don't.

So my view in all this is that as long as Figma’s board was appointed in accordance with its constitution, and the board members weren’t acting corruptly (e.g. bribery, conflicts of interest) or exceeding their authority under the company's constitution, shareholders should NOT get to challenge that board’s decisions. (IANAL; this is my view, not necessarily what the law says.)

p.s. A stock exchange may require that boards be primarily represent shareholders as a condition for listing; but this should not affect privately held companies.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codetermination_in_Germany [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_cooperative [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumers%27_co-operative


Nice! I'd built something similar to make fonts for the Adafruit GFX library. http://aravind.rs/fruitfont/

Its export format is C code that defines GFXGlyph and GFXFont structs.

Doesn't work well on mobile and multiple size/style variants doesn't work yet. This was mostly the result of yak shaving after I set out to make a watch face for my SQFMI Watchy.


This is really neat, thanks for sharing! To my recollection, I did actually come across GFXFont during my investigations on how to handle font exports, but I wasn't aware of the existence of any online tools which exported to that format.


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