I think he has a point. Slack and discord used to have IRC and XMPP, which made the decision to switch seem safer in light of the issues we experience today (holding backlog hostage for a fee, advertising, a/b tests). They timed the depreciation of these bridges so that it had minimal impact on their sales due to the existing network effects and captive audiences (employees, mostly).
We have seen this played out over and over and over again. It’s tiring, and it would be great for more people to be aware of these market capture tactics to make them less effective.
Slack and Discord aren't Google though? Not understanding the point here. You can use this argument against any product from any manufacturer, it seems like. Are you arguing against interoperability in general? Or taking an absolutist free software position that proprietary tools are never acceptable? Doesn't seem to me like that was the position upthread I was responding to.
The point we are both addressing has to do with a behavioral pattern exhibited by companies with the same incentive model over the past 30 years. Not a re-summarization of an article by one of those companies.
There are sometimes long pauses before my response or even mid-speech, during which I’m thinking about what’s said. But the delay is often interpreted as a cue for someone else to respond or change the subject, which often leads to not being able to say anything that i’ve spent so much glutamate to process.
I used to say “one moment” every 5 seconds while I think, but that was distracting.
Sometimes, I do this thing with my eyes jumping them around as if I’m reading a book; that gives people something to look at while they wait, like a spinner indicator.
As as over-thinker myself something I didn't appreciate until too late in life is the necessity of practice.
If you want to be able to hit a ball it doesn't matter how much thought you put into it - the learning is all about programming your lower instinctive brain and it only has the input device of repetition. This brain level has the ability to work at much lower latency - which is critical for reactive physical tasks.
I suspect it is the same here. You can certainly learn to speak using different levels of your brain as well. Case in point public speaking - the reason this is hard is generally you have to trust your mouth on automatic mode to follow behind and using the thinking part of your brain to better plan (or remember) ahead to build a narrative path.
Yeah. That does work. I do that sometimes, though my eyes start to hurt when I roll them up for that long.
I also find it easier to do something with my eyes than to do nothing while thinking. That’s probably just me.
In the future, I might want an led embedded in one of my temples, that will blink like a network switch port or hdd light that indicates brain activity.
Also filler text while you think is good to practice. “That’s actually a well informed question, what I’ve seen is….” Buys you 5 seconds if you can say it on autopilot and think while your mouth is moving
lol, yeah the trick is to use them as sparingly as possible and have a dozen or so to rotate. I'm not sure if I qualify as a slow thinker the way OP and some others here are discussing it. But, I do frequently need more time to answer complex problems. I've also started just feeling OK telling people I can follow up with them on certain questions as it's too complex to answer off top of my head. As with anything, it's a balance, I find if you can't answer simple questions people will lose confidence in your answers.
That is a hilarious bodymod. And considering that is is possible to get rough brain activity indicators in a non-invasive manner, something like it could actually be made.
I have a workbench from GI. It’s built like a tank and looks good, with a Boos Brothers solid maple top. YMMV but when I told them a big part of it came bent in shipping, they DGAF. That was not a good experience.
I’ve been looking for a good doctor for a while. I’m assuming that you were talking about your father, but if you know anyone you’d recommend (in US) I’d be very thankful.
Profit alone isn’t the motivation. Unlike polluting rivers, our goal isn’t to externalize costs onto society or the environment. We see a real problem: B2B teams waste massive time and budgets chasing unqualified leads, spamming prospects, and burning through acquisition dollars. By delivering truly high‑precision demand intelligence, we help businesses focus only on the buyers who actually want to talk, cutting down on unwanted outreach and wasted resources.
In other words, our goal is to create efficiency and reduce friction for buyers, sellers, and the planet rather than offloading harm onto someone else.
I don't think anyone is questioning the value for business. Marketing precision and accuracy come at a cost. That cost is the degradation of privacy; and by secondary order effect: human freedom, dignity and autonomy. That the resulting byproduct of this phenomenon is increased efficiency is irrelevant and uninteresting to the principal discussion.
One day you'll look back on how this technology is being used for actual real evil, and have to deal with the fact that your early naivety about the "value" you were bringing helped get us to that point.
Naïveté, and, IMO, a necessary deliberate desire to look the other way.
“Hey, I’d love to see the ahem ‘qualified leads’ looking at this crisis pregnancy center website, or at the Border Patrol website, or at the IRS tax deduction FAQ website.”
It’s so incredibly easy to imagine the ways this will be abused.
(crossposting from a comment in response to you; genuinely interested in this topic for discussion)
Yes! I experimented with it on my EXWM setup. After some back and forth via Aider, it made me a module to help me control and monitor tasks on my timewarrior setup, giving me a pomodoro-like indicator on my taskbar (changing colors as it approaches one hour).
It was a cool experience! I had it evaluate the code via commands to the emacs daemon, without reloading EXWM (ballsy, but I was prepared for failure).
EXWM is extremely flexible, but there is a high barrier of entry to using and customizing it. Having an LLM embedded to a live-evaluate desktop environment makes the interface more approachable without reducing its flexibility as much.
It also allows you to create explicit controls that map to the user’s muscle memory and sub-symbolic sensing of the environment, while staying out of the way during normal usage — a different paradigm than embedding an agent as an interface in its own right to control the environment (via speech or text).
Since open source software is readily modifiable, maybe soon it will unironically be the year of the linux desktop.
Yes! I experimented with it on my EXWM setup. After some back and forth via Aider, it made me a module to help me control and monitor tasks on my timewarrior setup, giving me a pomodoro-like indicator on my taskbar (changing colors as it approaches one hour).
It was a cool experience! I had it evaluate the code via commands to the emacs daemon, without reloading EXWM (ballsy, but I was prepared for failure).
EXWM is extremely flexible, but there is a high barrier of entry to using and customizing it. Having an LLM embedded to a live-evaluate desktop environment makes the interface more approachable without reducing its flexibility as much.
It also allows you to create explicit controls that map to the user’s muscle memory and sub-symbolic sensing of the environment, while staying out of the way during normal usage — a different paradigm than embedding an agent as an interface in its own right to control the environment (via speech or text).
Since open source software is readily modifiable, maybe soon it will unironically be the year of the linux desktop.
It is an excellent idea - the first useful LLM most in finance have / will interact with is to throw the 1000's of daily reports into a vector database and query against that.
"Whats the consensus in todays research about AAPL?" Out comes a distilled report with clickable links back to the ai slop Goldmans et al sent out this morning.
At least you won't loose folders, it's become a meme (1). My wife told me that at her office they had important folders just disappear in dropbox, luckily they keep copies.
We have seen this played out over and over and over again. It’s tiring, and it would be great for more people to be aware of these market capture tactics to make them less effective.
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