>> Something terrible happens to men as they grow up

lol... testosterone? or perhaps testosterone combined with thousands of years of "wolf pack" evolution where one has to prod and disrupt to find "their place" in the pecking order?

Imagine a neutral starting point where maybe it was not without male agression, but no actual millennia yet spent further honing animalistic tendencies along the wolf pack model.

The dog-eat-dog approach appears to have evolved including the same major hormone balance among various species such as canines and humans, you could say it is like aggression and pecking order "on steroids".

But the steroids were always there, it's more like the steroids are being leveraged by the craftiness of the species in an evolutionary biological way.

Resulting in the humans ending up much more evolved when they want to be.

Anyway, from that neutral root a completely different offshoot could independently have spent the same millennia evolving in the complete opposite direction, away from as much resemblance to a canine hierarchy as evolution would allow.

Such disparate cultures may or may not have interacted, clashed or have their decendants coexist today. Nobody would ever know after all this time but among men, maybe some will culturally trend more toward the influence of testosterone in a competitive way when encountering others regardless of whether they are males or females. The male-male competition the most prominent.

While others will be just the opposite and be highly influenced in a co-operative way when encountering others whether male or female. The male-female co-operation the most prominent.

IOW for some men their testosterone is primarily involved in relating to other males without as much consideration for females, other men their testosterone is primarily involved in relating to females without as much consideration for other males. And everything in between.

If any one culture were to become dominant enough, that would make any other one an outlier.

> “Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.”

Strange, cuz Marylin Monroe told me "if you can make a woman laugh, you can make her do anything."

So maybe men are just constantly calibrating a competitive sense of humor..?

From his writing he sounds British, where class has a somewhat different context and from what I gather, can be inferred from speech/dress.

From his writing:

     Social and ethnic differences seemed to soften the male response, and such a softening was also noted when unicycling in Framlingham, a small Suffolk town to which I had moved from Newcastle. 

responses varied between a large hard industrial northern England city and a softer more rural and idyllic town.

I saw a comedy video recently in which the comic suggested that a man using an umbrella in Newcastle was enough to provoke comedic insults from passers by.

If the film Jaws was set in North-East England:

https://youtu.be/PLNA_57a9qE

Men make friends in different ways? Just like, you know, almost all human things vary.

Sounds like a great counter argument to "nope".

To put it perhaps more clearly, there are some of us men for which it definitely is true. Source: self.

My favorite way of responding to obvious oversimplification is quick dismissal. Shows exactly as much effort and thought.

Then I will put some more effort into it.

For many men, this type of comment is frequently made without any malice. (The original archetype several levels up was "Run Forrest, run!")

This seems like it fits into the general tone of a large fraction of interactions I've had with other men. Either I missed a lot of intended aggression, or this large volume of interactions wasn't actually intended to be aggressive. Of course, it's possible for a short verbal communication to be understood differently than it was intended. But in this post, we are getting the recipient's interpretation of the intent. It appears to me, (also a biased source) that this recipient is very sensitive to perceived aggression and insults. There's some analysis and speculation based on their perceptions, that seems to take it as given that intents were correctly understood. From my reading, this is very much in question. I didn't have the benefit of hearing tone of voice and understanding full context. But in their written form most of the lines categorized here as aggressive would have been categorized differently by some other unicycle rider. Specifically, I'm thinking of me. Full disclosure, I don't know how to unicycle.

The article was written by a man who interpreted those remarks as a man. And he was there to hear the tone of voice.

Right. I'm glad we're on the same page about that. We're starting from common ground.

What I'm proposing, as a man, is that he mis-interpreted them.

yeah buts its not even cheap like aliexpress. its overpriced mushroom brands!! there are no deals that I see on Amazon anymore, or at least maybe they know im more likely to pony up the extra $$, so thats what they show me…

yeah but those are easy to filter to results available in store. or even in my store, so i can go pick it up tonight even!

i ise ublock origin, but I too suffer from abysmal search results on Amazon. Im sure their AI has decided ill just buy all the junk after i give up on finding what I actually looked for.

Ive also noticed lower prices for the same items if ive recently searched on walmart or target recently too…

>> I've literally never heard of anyone using google pay, zelle or venmo or cashapp

But you use Twitter..? That's some crazy bubble. venmo isn't even a tech savvy thing, everyone everywhere I know that moves money between individuals or super-small business transactions (think cleaning service, girl scout cookies, club dues) uses it...

oh for sure. every big money sport is loaded with doping and most hardly test. NFL, soccer, hockey, baseball (still), even golf I’d bet on.

Avid recreational golfers steal their grand/parents beta blockers to help with putting and swing smoothness as well as nerves.

There is a lot of prestige and a lot of wealthy people who play golf.

The same type of person who are obsessed with cycling instead will dope at a crazy level.

So no doubt the pros for whom millions are on the line, have their little helpers.

while I agree that the v10 is the most unholy of sky shredding sounds…. its been almost 20yrs since F1 has had them at this point. Times change I guess..