I just wanted to drop in and thank you for posting this. I'd never heard of it, and seeing a plain page of actual web results was almost a visceral relief from irritation I wasn't even aware of.
You hear a faint whisper from the alleyway: you should try Kagi.
I know it's the HN darling and is probably talked about too much already but it doesn't have this problem. The only AI stuff is if you specifically ask for it which in your case would be never. And unlike Google where you are at the whims of the algorithm you can punish (or just block) AI garbage sites that SEO their way into the organic results. And a global toggle to block AI images.
That'd be a bit like expecting Five Guys to cook you something vegetarian. Google are an AI company at this point. If you don't want AI touching your "food", use a search engine not run by an AI company.
I think it has to be an intentional lie and intended to harm, in the US at least (but don’t trust me on that!). If nothing else it would be interesting to see how it goes!
I've been using kagi maybe a year now, and it is great. I know it is great because every so often I jump on someone else's computer for a task and have to search so.ething and I'm completely overwhelemed by what comes up.
I'll take the lesser evil over the greater. The main concern I'm aware of is that Yandex kills people. Google kills more people than Yandex, by whichever metric you use, so I'll take the lesser evil.is the lesser evil here.
The other concern I saw is that they might deliver pro-Russia propaganda. If that happens, I'll trust Kagi to firewall them appropriately. Google also intentionally delivers geopolitical propaganda.
Kagi is nice but it just seems so expensive for what it is. I get that search that actually shows me what I want is expensive but I would want to use this as a family plan and I think we would go through the lower paid tiers pretty quickly.
The AI summaries are what made me switch. I don't love the idea of using Google products for all the obvious reasons, but they had good UX so that's what I kept using. Enter the AI summaries which made Google search unusable for me, and I was more than happy to pay Kagi
It would have come in handy yesterday. Entire webpage full of 'dynamically generated content'. The issue was not the content. The issue was that whoever prepared it, did not consider failing gracefully so when the prompt failed, it just showed raw prompt as opposed to the information it could not locate.
But I suppose that is better than outright making stuff up.
Right, now search for anything and let the AI slop flow in. Youtube is like the Pacific gyre of AI slop. Make sure the ad blockers are off, enjoy the raw beauty of the modern internet.
The road outside my house was widened into a highway more than five years ago. To this day, Google Maps still asks me to take detours that were only active during construction. I have reported this ad nauseum. Nothing. It also keeps telling me to turn from the service lanes onto the highway at points that only pedestrians walk across. More than once, it's asked me to take illegal turns or go the wrong way up a one way street (probably because people on motorbikes go that).
Whatever method they use to update their data is broken, or they do not care about countries our size enough to make sure it is reasonably correct and up-to-date.
That's interesting, and they may have different "lines" into the "map change" department; I reported both a previous residence and previous work location (in Downtown Atlanta, yet!) both having their google map "pins" in the wrong spot, and both were fixed within a week.
Maybe it is, but does Google actually get data from government maps? Isn't it mostly satellite data + machine learning from people's movement by tracking phones?
In 2005 or 2006 google maps gave me directions that would have gotten me a ticket (I know because I'd previously gotten a ticket by accidentally taking the same route). I emailed. A human responded back and thanked me, and they corrected the behavior.
Curious what the situation is that would have given you a ticket for taking a particular route; was it a legal "no through traffic" or going the wrong way down a 1-way street?
How does the police force distinguish between a map route and people randomly bumbling there? Were there signs that were ignored?
In Herndon, VA near dulles airport there is a toll road that extends into DC. However, if you enter the toll road from the airport you get into special divided lanes that are toll-free for traffic to/from the airport. (Or at least there was two decades ago)
I got a ticket that way once when I was visiting because I only knew how to get back to my hotel from the airport so I drove to the airport then to the hotel-- and I guess the police watch for people looping through the airport to avoid the tolls. In my case I wasn't aware of the weird toll/no-toll thing-- I was just lost and more concerned with finding my hotel than the posted 'no through traffic' signs.
Later, after moving to VA, I noticed google maps was explicitly routing trips from near the airport to other places to take a loop through the airport to minimize toll costs which would have been quite clever if it weren't prohibited.
The easiest way to understand their usage of the term "rational" might be to think of it as the negation of the term "irrational" (where the latter refers mostly to cognitive biases). Not as a contrast with "empirical."
I don't think GP objects to the literalness, as much as to the "I am known for always being right and I acknowledge it", which comes off as.. not humble.
You didn't read closely enough. He is condemning the notion that evolution explains the origin of all things (as ridiculous as that sounds...it was a kind of ontological darwinism; no reasonable person holds this opinion today).
