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I don't think sarcasm and irony are a good way to get people to see your point. You're very clear headed and it still takes paragraphs to explain and to be honest isn't very convincing.

"Male tears" definitely went beyond a joke as well. It's often used now to celebrate events that anger men.

If feminists (radical or otherwise) want people to take them seriously, they must treat people as they want to be treated.

"It's just a joke" most definitely doesn't work when it comes to men talking about women so it shouldn't be used in the opposite direction.



The purpose of this male tears joke is not to create a debate, it is about feminist women knowing there are other feminist women out there. Men don't need that, they already know.

However, I do agree that in the context of a honest debate this really doesn't help, and I wouldn't use it there. But I know many people would, because in both sides so many people think debate is about winning, not conveying ideas.




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