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Announcing GitHub Japan (github.com/blog)
114 points by Rifu on June 4, 2015 | hide | past | favorite | 17 comments



I've a feeling that the formation of a new Japanese legal entity by Github is due to legal hurdles in doing business in Japan. I used to work for a firm earlier which had created a Japanese legal entity for this purpose.


Can anyone explain why there needs to be a subsidiary?


Most US software companies with on-the-ground operations in Japan will want to have Japanese subsidiaries. You'll want to have Japan-based employees. This obligates you to pay Japanese employment taxes, contribute to the Japanese retirement system, and arrange for Japanese healthcare. Having a Japanese subsidiary is one of those things which I suspect is not an actual requirement but which your competent legal counsel will say will save you hundreds of hours of explaining yourself at the local ward office.

Additionally, after you have a subsidiary, you have a very straightforward way (intra-company transfer) to get e.g. US employees work-capable Japanese visas in a fashion which is very not straightforward if you lack a Japanese entity. (If you have e.g. an engineer who you want to place in Tokyo who doesn't come with e.g. Japanese citizenship, permanent residence, or a spousal/parent visa, then getting them an engineering visa requires roughly three bullet points, one of which is a contract with a Japanese organization to do engineering work. It's a black letter law requirement and you will not be successful in getting an engineering status of residence without it.)

n.b. Not a lawyer, not an accountant, but if anyone from the US is ever getting an office set up here drop me a line and I'll give you the quick rundown.


Probably for support / sales / community outreach based stuff.

Lots of people in Japan, even techies, have less than stellar English skills. There are also a lot of companies here that are still in the dark-ages when it comes to technology (e.g. I worked at a company that tried CVS in 2009 before I joined but didn't see the point of version control)

Sales / Support staff fluent in Japanese will help a lot I think.

Japan has 130 million people. I think there is probably lots of room for Expansion for github. Having a Japanese sub also makes taking payments easier, I am sure there are other legal / administrative reasons.


Like theyeti, I worked in a company that wanted to do business in Japan - they wanted to buy some advertising there to get the Japanese audience - and advertising companies refused to work with them (to take their money that is) because they didn't have an office in Japan. That is when you want to buy something from Japanese companies, I can't imagine how hard it would be to sell to them without an office there.


They're a G.K. (合同会社), which I believe is essentially equivalent to an LLC. Tax/legal reasons?


Because enough(or potentially enough) businesses are willing to pay for their technical support?


Should Github Hire Matz then? And many other Japanese Ruby Core team to speed up the development of Ruby ( as a language ) and CRuby / RuJIT ( as the Compiler )

The Ruby VM really need some spanking.


He's currently Chief Architect of Ruby at Heroku, so it may be a tough sell.


Is this related to censorship in any way?


[flagged]


Since we're going off-topic: what's the difference between selling a domain name for higher than nominal ICANN price and domain squatting?

I'm not being facetious, honestly if you're not using the name right now, you either let it go at registry price or you join the ranks of domain squatters and don't get to complain about them anymore.

Or am I missing something? I'm always open to changing my opinion, please help me find some good arguments against it.


I'd have thought the difference would be whether it's a domain that you're speculating might be valuable to anybody, versus one that you assume to have value to someone specific. E.g. buying "learn-brainfuck.com" because you think it's going to be the next big language, vs. buying "github.kr" for when they eventually open a Korean office.

Not that one's any better than the other, but I think people tend to call the former "speculation" and the latter "squatting".


Domain squatting usually means sitting on somebody else's trademark, not simply registering a name that you expect might become popular.

(edit: I turned on showdead for a minute to see the flagged comment. Yeah, he's selling github.id, that makes him a squatter.)


Maybe he has some IP surrounding the original business that he is selling along with the domain?

But good question and good point, I hadn't thought about this before.


Where is he complaining about domain squatters?


It's a non-confrontational way to express disapproval. It helps to keep the discussion civil, as opposed to jumping the gun and calling people names, which would just elicit animosity.

Additionally, it gives me an easy way out if it turns out I was wrong: no harm, no foul.


You cannot use "Github" name to represent your product.

So good luck with selling that domain name. It's worthless and you are wasting your time.




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