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Autodesk’s John Walker Explained HP and IBM in 1991 (cringely.com)
94 points by rbanffy on June 3, 2015 | hide | past | favorite | 21 comments



Walker's excerpts highlighting the impact of accounting rules are very much worth reading.


Accounting rules are crazy! Why isn't investing in other companies considered a cost?


One way to view this is companies have 2 buckets to allocate costs to:

1 - Ongoing operations

2 - Investments

Investors care about margins (% of sales) on ongoing operations, but tend to view investments with a "Return on Capital" (% of assets). Note that margins are on flow, where as ROC is on a fixed asset. The idea is that if you know the margin and growth of a business, you can come up with a long term value estimate. (If you're interested, I can write more about how this calculation works) It's also worth noting that this isn't the "optimal" way to make spending decisions. Good companies know that it's worth treating all expenses as a "Return on Capital" basis rather than purely optimizing on margins. (This can be called EVA or Economic Value Added)

What the article captures is the essence of good leadership and management. You can't be 100% long term - investors would never know if the money is being well spent. You can't be 100% short term - you'll never invest for the future, and will get crushed when the future arrives.

There is one caveat... If a company decides that it can no longer innovate, then the "Stop spending money, and return money to sharedholders via buybacks so that they can invest it elsewhere" actually does make sense. (Move capital from IBM to companies who need it to grow)


> You can't be 100% long term

Amazon?


That only works as long as the founder or somebody equally powerful is in charge. Everybody else is beholden to the board and thus the short-medium term impact on the share price.


True, but this doesn't invalidate my point. Its more of an argument that non-public or founder-controlled companies enjoy a competitive advantage.


In some cases they can. It will be interesting to see how Dell plays out, even if it's hard to generalize from just one data point.


Amazon is. So is Google. Both have strong founders, and were very explicit in their IPOs about this. Even still, both need a certain level of profitability to sustain themselves. In addition, many companies that spend too much time in the future get complacent about the present. (Look at all the research at Xerox PARC that got commercialized elsewhere)

There are many other companies that either lack that credibility, or have a history of wasting money. (>50% of M&A deals subtract rather than add value to the buyer)


When you purchase another company, the difference between its market value (if publicly traded) and the acquisition price is booked as an asset called "goodwill."

If it's clear you've overpaid for the asset, you have to "write down" the goodwill (take the lost value as a loss). One example: http://www.businessinsider.com/hps-8-billion-write-off-is-re...

If it weren't for goodwill, no one would acquire anyone else b/c they would take an immediate earnings hit.


It is actually a cost and Walker is wrong. What changes is how the cost is spread. If you buy a building and you spend 1M you will have -1M cash and +1M in property. But since the building will age you will have to amortize it, let's say over 10 year. So you will account 100K as an operating expense and you will reduce the value of that building on your capital, so at the end of the year the build value is only 900K. And you do the same for the remaining 9 year. But this make sense, if I buy a building, I'm not going to use it for just one year. If you buy a company it is a little bit different. Usually the physical assets goes on the balance sheet as explained above. The difference between the buying cost and the assets is called Goodwill and it is the only part that doesn't need to be amortized. Goodwill are many things, the brand value, the internal know how etc etc and doesn't need to be amortized. But you are required to re-evaluate it every year and if it has lost value you have to write it down, so it is a cost.

If you look at it carefully, the accounting rules make perfect sense. Otherwise buying a building (or server) for my company will impact the margin of just one year and it would be difficult. The problem is that Goodwill is difficult to evaluate, so managers could decide to re-evaluate it as they want in order to boost their bottom line. But it is bad management, not bad accounting.

Regarding is point on sales, it is not even accounting, but the dumb use of financial ratios. Usually the company could use the earnings call and the notes on the balance sheet to explain this shifts. But again, it is a call on the management side to explain it and sometimes they prefer not to explain to hide from competitors. They need to find the right balance between hiding their moves from competitor and informing the investors...


My favorite quote re: ratios is from Morris Chang, the founder of TSMC:

“You Americans measure profitability by a ratio. There’s a problem with that. No banks accept deposits denominated in ratios. The way we measure profitability is in ‘tons of money’. You use the return on assets ratio if cash is scarce. But if there is actually a lot of cash, then that is causing you to economize on something that is abundant.”


The quote is funny but wrong. If you measure everything in ton of cash you don't understand what happens. Ratios are powerful (especially the changes over time) but are clue of something that need to be investigated. One great example, the cash ratios of Walmart were very similar to the one of broken company. Except that it was their operating model to call for having few cash on hand.



I love that he uses "Spacely's Sprockets' as his example customer. I used to always use companies from cartoons in the case studies I made up for trainings, but I reached a point a few years ago where the people in the trainings had never heard of the companies I was using (Spacely's Sprockets, Omni Consumer Products, Slate Construction Company).


use Cyberdyne Systems, Skynet etc. Just modernize to movies in the last few years :)


I get the other two (Jetsons and Robocop) (They predate me, but Google FTW! Lol). but where does Slate Construction Company come from?


Probably Slate Rock and Gravel Company from The Flintstones.


So what companies are at risk of changed user expectations right now?

I wonder what tech we have now that is sort of experimental, unproven but seriously at risk of being accepted: 3d printing, AR.

I'm not sure about these because while systems for these new tech exist, they don't appear quite wildly popular just yet.

What do you all think?


3D monitor (autostereoscopy like Nintendo 3DS 2014 ed), augmented reality (Google glass, MS Hololens, etc), virtual reality (Oculus, Samsung Gear, etc.), virtual assistant (next-gen Siri/Cortana/Watson/etc.), 3D printing (industrial precision, metal sinter technique), consumer cloud storage & sync, drones, cashless life, etc.


IBM is one.

Statistical models at scale, encapsulated in a self service web platform with accompanying APIs are about to become the norm for non-tech mid market and small businesses.

SPSS family just does not compare.


I believe the tax burden on Autodesk would be x% of $125 as well instead of x% of $500, actually saving more money for the company.




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