> As a society, we need to come to terms with masculinity. That means men need to be able to be masculine without being domineering and without being castigated.
You're doing the exact same thing you're complaining about. This is a social problem towards men, it is not a mans problem they need to solve for themselves.
The issue has nothing to do with masculinity and everything to do with the current crop of overly loud feminists. They won, and in doing so they left behind half the population. It's time for society to remember that other half.
This is exactly the problem. Instead of considering what it would take to solve the problem you point the finger at men for no other reason than they aren't women.
Never said it was men's fault. I said the problem is society's skewed definition of masculinity. It's perpetuated by both men and women. The solution is implied: redefine what it means to be a man.
They did not win, they just managed to be listened to. Women still have more difficulties than men. And telling that is not saying that men do not have problems.
* Are better protected under the law if they are victimized
* Are less likely to be homeless (and receive more support if they are)
* Receive shorter sentences for the same crimes
* Are less likely to be victims of police brutality (the disparity between men and women is actually greater than the disparity between blacks and whites!)
* Are protected under the law from genital mutilation
* Have reproductive rights
* Are more likely to go to college
* When applying for academic positions, are twice as likely to be selected over equally qualified men
* Are the majority of the electorate
* Receive preferential treatment in civil court
* The youngest generations now out-earns their male peers
* Are provided government loans, tax breaks, and contracts unavailable to men
* Are given better grades in school for the same answers
* Own the majority of wealth in the United States
Everything else being equal, men face far greater issues than their female peers.
>You can try, but every study I've seen has found that men are favored in contested custody proceedings.
Do they? Every study I have seen has never accounted for the differences in the average case where the man challenges vs. the average case where they do not. Perhaps they are discriminated against to the point that they only seek to challenge the status quo when they have a very good case, which is why they win more often when they do challenge.
>Everything else being equal, men face far greater issues than their female peers.
This sentiment is part of the problem in my opinion. How shitty you have it isn't a damn competition. I think we should be working to remove these systemic issues for everyone, rather than keeping score on who has had the more challenging game of life.
Edit: I was thinking about your comment. You bring up a legitimate list of concerns that I happen to agree with you on. I just don't really care for the way it was delivered. I think you could win a lot more support if you presented the argument less as a competition for who has it worse, and more as a way to illuminate issues for people who may not be aware or who may have not given these issues much though.
Considering it was a list of examples to show another poster's claim as being unfounded, you seem to be responding to the wrong person. Their parent comment is the one who insisted that one side has it worse, suggesting it is a competition.
It is a trend I notice in online discussions. In the gender competitions, it seems the one who wins is reprimanded more than the one who started it.
I think the above statement needs to be qualified. It's most likely true in most of the third world, but in the developed world, women enjoy many of the advantages that men don't, so it's really hard to claim who has more difficulties...
You're doing the exact same thing you're complaining about. This is a social problem towards men, it is not a mans problem they need to solve for themselves.
The issue has nothing to do with masculinity and everything to do with the current crop of overly loud feminists. They won, and in doing so they left behind half the population. It's time for society to remember that other half.