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Bytecode features not available in the Java language (stackoverflow.com)
50 points by henk53 on April 17, 2015 | hide | past | favorite | 14 comments



Didn't see my favorite on the list: creating the bool 2. I believe there are a couple of methods in the JDK that do

    if (dangerousFlag == true) doCheck();
    ...
    foo(dangerousFlag ? bar : baz);


That's in the list:

> Overflow and implicitly assign byte, short, char and boolean values


Wait, I love learning new things about Java, but I feel in the dark here. What is your example demonstrating?


The valid values of booleans / bytes / shorts / chars are only enforced in the Java compiler, not actually in bytecode.

But the Java compiler assumes values will be in range - i.e. that a boolean will be zero or one, that sort of thing.

And as such it makes some optimizations that are... questionable, if you're interfacing with bytecode that wasn't produced by the Java compiler.

For example, if `flag` is supposedly a boolean, but you gave it the value `2` directly via bytecode, flag==true is false, as it gets compiled down to flag == 1, which is false, but flag?bar:baz will return bar.

This can seriously break static analysis, among other things.


If true is book(1) then the check

    bool(2) == true
will fail but

    bool(2) ? a : b
will act as if bool(2) were true and this inconsistency could lead to unintended execution paths.


Ah, I'm with you. Thanks.


As far as not catching checked exceptions goes, this is actually possible in the Java language as well since the language allows throwing a generic type parameter. It's pretty difficult to do by accident though, and does at least give a compile warning.

    public class Dangerous {
    
        public static void main (String ... args) {
            Dangerous.<RuntimeException>throwUnchecked(new IOException("Forgot to catch me!"));
        }
    
        static <T extends Exception> void throwUnchecked(Exception e) throws T{
            throw (T) e;
        }
    }


I knew the SO answer must have been written by Raf before I even got to the author section. Check out his great library, ByteBuddy, if you want to try mucking with some of this stuff:

http://bytebuddy.net


If the Java Virtual Machines don't always execute certain Java Byte Codes, how does a compiler to JVB for another language know that the generated code is run ?


There's an official specification for what and how a program that claims to be a JVM implementation should operate given Java bytecode. So someone writing a language that compiles to Java bytecode would typically either target the specification (and test on as many implementations as they felt necessary), or target a specific implementation like HotSpot and ignore the rest.


Which bytecodes do you mean? If you're talking about the jsr/ret thing they still have functionality but the compiler just doesn't generate those.


What is the sound of one hand clapping?


You can define two methods that differ only by return type. That's how covariant returns work. Check the javap output and recoil in horror.


True. One of them is a bridge method.

Here's an example:

    class CovariantReturn extends CovariantReturnBase {
        public Integer produce() {
            return 5;
        }
    }
    
    class CovariantReturnBase {
        public Number produce() {
            return 4.5;
        }
    }
And the relevant javap output for CovariantReturn:

	  public java.lang.Integer produce();
	    flags: ACC_PUBLIC
	    Code:
	      ...

	  public java.lang.Number produce();
	    flags: ACC_PUBLIC, ACC_BRIDGE, ACC_SYNTHETIC
	    Code:
	      ...




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