I'm saying that FB/Internet.org is an inferior product (since it's limited to a ...

nileshtrivedi · on April 17, 2015

Defaults matter. In Europe, 10% people opted in for organ donation. But when the mechanism was switched to an opt-out, only 10% actually opted out.

icebraining · on April 17, 2015

True - though that's mostly applicable because people don't really care if their organs are donated.

But any case, I don't see the default here; people have to choose the telco(s) that implement Internet.org, and sign up for it, no?

nileshtrivedi · on April 17, 2015

Is that like saying Microsoft shouldn't have been penalized for bundling IE because the user chose the machine which came bundled with Windows which came bundled with IE? (Just so you know, telecom cartels are a reality - at least in India)

icebraining · on April 17, 2015

I don't see how is it comparable. What is Internet.org bundled with?

nileshtrivedi · on April 17, 2015

Bundled with the mobile service (Reliance in India, for eg)

nileshtrivedi · on April 17, 2015

@icebraining I can't reply in the thread so posting here.

Other internet data packages are bought explicitly by the user, and treat websites neutrally.

icebraining · on April 17, 2015

How is it bundled anymore than any other mobile data package?

kamikazi · on April 17, 2015

The problem is akin to being a frog in the well.

Millions of first-time internet users will be onboarded (using shady mktg techniques - that's just how things work on the ground where it gets real dirty) onto free flavors of handpicked services.

They have no idea of real internet. Please see the very first link I posted which gives our full reply. It answers your Qn in depth.