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Later, people who wanted to violate "individual rights" made up the "human rights" idea as a contrast to "individual rights."

That's a tendentious misrepresentation, bordering on incendiary, not at all suitable for this discussion forum. The human rights movement has roots in the Red Cross, the Geneva convention, and the post-war efforts to create international peace.

International conventions on human rights are not primarily used to "violate individual rights." Yes, they are used to make claims for the positive duties of states and societies to care for the suffering. When water is available, none should be excluded; when water is needed, that is a human rights issue, and measures should be taken.

(To make a counterpoint, the "individual" rights—of which you speak from a libertarian or Randian perspective—are not really all that individual. That's why the rhetoric of individual rights is so often used by those in favor of the rights of corporations. Randians equivocate the notions of the individual and the corporation for ideological reasons.)




I don't know about "Randians" but libertarians in general are against corporations as they are a product of the State.

Individual rights are not losing their credibility because some illegitimate market rigging is allowed by the State.


The proper term is "Objectivists," not "Randians."

"Randians" is insulting (that is why mbrock is using it).




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