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Samuel Colt's “YC app” for the Summer 1851 batch (hscott.net)
277 points by blueintegral on March 30, 2015 | hide | past | favorite | 41 comments



I don't see this being a viable product.

1) For a machine shop owner, you can already build such a "multi-shot gun" yourself quite trivially. I have a setup in my barn where I can spot-weld seven rifles together along the length of the barrel. I then use a bunch of loops of baling wire that run from the triggers to the end of the stock so that I can fire the correct rifle without any awkwardness.

I haven't tried this with pistols but the general approach should be the same.

2) My system also has the benefit of me not being tied to one company's proprietary standard of "interchangeable" parts. If you buy a Colt, you're stuck buying Colt parts forever. With my system, I can weld together any guns I want.

3) It does not seem very "viral".


Sounds neat, but..

- How are you going to scale production to meet demands? Does not look like you could reach the kind of growth YC wants. - Who is this guy and why should I trust his guns? How do I tell how many bullets I have left? - Seems like rearming would be a pain! Reloading just one chamber is already difficult.


"I worry, I worry."


Good on them to for resisting the urge to preempt every reasonable objection.

Kill your darlings.


Do things that don't scale.


That's a well-written app. It clearly explains what they're doing, why it's important, and why they're the right team to execute on it.


So is it the first "killer app"?

I've previously heard something like:

   God made men
   Sam Colt made them equal
But Colt itself says[1]:

   Abe Lincoln may have freed all men,
   but Sam Colt made them equal
[1] http://www.colt.com/Company/History.aspx


Seems like the barrel is a single point of failure. How is this better than simply carrying more than one pistol? Allowing complete fail-over in case of a malfunction.

Pretty design, but the proprietary projectiles breaks compatibility with existing arms.


How do these guys think they're going to avoid gang-firing the whole cylinder and blowing up the pistol?


Pretty funny, but I've been working on this post about the same thing for the Wright Brothers: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9291316. Great minds think alike. Maybe if we could put some guns on a plane...


Good read. BTW, the HN link says 1802 instead of 1902.


Argh. I wish I could fix it. Thanks for the heads up, though.


Rejected, doesn't know the market:

    It's much safer and more reliable than flintlock, which is what people are using now.
In the enterprise of war, we use percussion caps these days.


Percussion caps were only invented in the early 1800s and weren't widespread until the 1830's, so this is not as wrong as it sounds. Flintlocks were still widespread when the Colt revolver was invented.


Fair enough, but the military (an similar orgs, e.g. texas rangers) were using percussion mostly by then right? The big customers they list are the military.


Percussion cap revolvers are very prone to dangerous cross firing in the cylinder. Mr. Colt should have emphasized that.


Funny idea. Are there more examples of fictional YC applications of historical or modern companies?


I think it would be hilarious to see fictional "failed" historic YC apps, especially those that made it big in their time.


Or even better, real applications from ultimately successful companies that failed to get into YC.


Buffer's app is one example, but I'd like to see others. https://open.bufferapp.com/buffers-y-combinator-application/


I really need to see a Tesla vs. Edison (AC vs. DC) themed YC app.


someone should do this for apple/microsoft/general motors/general electric/xiaomi etc.


The GM pivot in 2008 would be hilarious.

Disclosure: I work for GM.


Someone just showed us an idea like this right before you guys. We don't like it. What else do you have?


Rejected. Won't move to SV. Takes to long.

Now if someone would only hack the isthmus of Panama...Hmmm


I can't believe they didn't mention their big US navy contract! Cartridged rounds are a big plus at sea!


Colt (and Remington, and other early revolvers) had a muzzle-loaded, cap-lock design for guns up until after the US Civil War, IIRC. (Also, IIRC, I don't think paper cartridges were ever a big thing for revolvers. Colt's early guns removed the cylinder to reload, which meant you could theoretically carry spare loaded cylinders; Remington guns had a built-in loading lever.) In fact,

"In 1852 an employee of Colt's, Rollin White, came up with the idea of having the revolver cylinder bored through to accept metallic cartridges. He took this idea to Colt who flatly rejected it and ended up firing White within a few years.[18] Colt historian RL Wilson has described this as the major blunder of Sam Colt's professional life.[19] Rollin White left Colt's in December 1854 and registered a patent on April 3, 1855 in Hartford, Connecticut, as patent number 12,648: Improvement in Repeating Fire-arms.[20] On November 17, 1856 White signed an agreement with Smith & Wesson for the exclusive use of his patent. The contract stipulated that White would be paid 25 cents for every revolver, but that it was up to him to defend his patent against infringement as opposed to Smith & Wesson.[21]"

...(from Wikipedia) with the result that patent licensing meant that Colt couldn't make or convert metallic cartridge guns until well after the Civil War (IIRC).


I'm thinking that this is an "application" from prior to that contract, hence discussing the endorsement of the Texas Rangers. So a product that is pretty much done that could use a bit of help with marketing and polish, such as moving away from the squareback trigger guard the early models had.


Wow, really neat and well executed.

I was thinking of doing an similar product but couldn't get time for it.. All the best for you guys.

BTW, Are you planning for global reach or targeting only local?


I opened the video link in the background while I read the application. For the first two minutes I thought the drive in my macbook pro was going bad.


I think they have done a great job doing things that don'f scale. Also they have a lot of paying customers and traction.

But I am worried that this might be a solo founder type team. We invest in teams, not just products. You'd be surprised how many times an idea changes midway through the project, and you will need each other to keep going.


Compared this to apps friends have shown me, this is really concise.


So would they get in?


Would YC fund weapons?


Only if the company is really killing it.


According to sama, they would fund anything that can become a $10bn company.


If I were to guess, I'd say no based on one of YC's cofounders, Trevor. To my knowledge, his company Anybots has resisted that easier to get DOD money.


They'd probably in 1851 like everybody else.


tough competition this batch


Ah, they have revenue and users!? This sounds like a feasible business model. Rejected.


Hilarious!!! I did not like the application. I am glad it was a joke.




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