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I'm a mathematics graduate student with (basically) a degree in CS, and I see programmers claim this all the time. They seem to think that if they can make a tool that allows them to read calculus textbooks or machine learning textbooks more easily, this tool will obviously be useful for all mathematicians everywhere. I disagree.

If you want to seriously address this issue, you need to make sure it works for the mathematicians who work at the most abstract levels of the hierarchy. Mathematics as a language is primarily about communicating an idea from one human to another. The problem here is that pure mathematicians want and need to bend type rules for the sake of communication. There are implicit equivalences of types all over the place. For example, a homotopy is a smooth map (between more than one kind of space depending on your preference), but it is also a statement of equality between two things, and it is a commutative diagram involving infinite sequences of objects and operators which is defined in contexts where smooth maps do not exist. Whether or not these different things can be used in the same place depends not on the type of the definition but the greater context of the paper.

Moreover, not all variables have definitions you can annotate. Sometimes the definitions are assumed to exist for the sake of contradiction, sometimes they are the unique limit of some crazy sequence that takes a page to write down. Sometimes they are defined by properties they have, so they don't represent a single object but a family of objects (or maybe it is a single object, who knows?)

I'm not saying better math documents are impossible. I'm saying that most programmers who claim that we need a better way to do it don't appreciate the depth and complexity of the problem.

I think probably a better solution is to augment a public repository of papers (such as arXiv) by allowing readers to add inline annotations explaining concepts, fixing bugs, etc. The real tragedy is that once a person figures out what the hell is going on in a poorly written paper, they have no way to bring their insight to anyone reading the same document in the same place.




> They seem to think that if they can make a tool that allows them to read calculus textbooks or machine learning textbooks more easily, this tool will obviously be useful for all mathematicians everywhere. I disagree.

I agree with you times infinity.

I get frustrated when programmers are used to looking at source code that has very precise meaning and are expecting to be able to read mathematics as if it were source code too. Or worse, when people think that the hardest part of understanding mathematics is the notation. Or that a capital sigma means a sum in all contexts, or that a lowercase sigma could not possibly mean anything other than a standard deviation or a lowercase pi could not mean anything other than the first positive root of the sine function.

Mathematics is written by humans for humans. Trying to automate mathematical writing or reading is about as feasible as trying to automate literary analysis of 19th century romanticism[1]. Or in Weierstrass's words to Kovalevskaya,

    [...] it is true that a mathematician who is not somewhat of a
    poet, will never be a perfect mathematician.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Karl_Weierstrass

[1] When reading Riemann, I particularly feel like I might as well be reading E. T. A. Hoffman sometimes. Some of the moves he makes I cannot describe as anything but poetical. For example, how he describes the contours of integration in a couple of reformulations of the zeta function.


> Mathematics is written by humans for humans.

Sure. But since I can't directly probe your mind, I can either read through thousands of pages of manuscript to refine my internal mental model of the particular theory/problem set/subfield, or hope for an interactive system that allows me to do just that, where I can tinker with concepts and connections between them.

Bret Victor showed it best, and even though he was talking about the applied side, it goes perfectly for the more abstract areas too.


> even though he was talking about the applied side, it goes perfectly for the more abstract areas too.

This is where Bret Victor and I disagree: interactive documents for visualizing circuit diagrams do not generalize perfectly to all of mathematics. If you want to develop a generic tool that allows any mathematician to build interactive documents for tinkering with concepts, you need to see how deep the mathematical rabbit hole goes. Victor's tools are a proof of concept for very limited systems.


When I was studying mathematics the tool I wanted most was a simple proof assistant that could help me dive deeper into steps.

Because to effectively understand a concept (usually through applications of it either in full blown proofs, or in smaller calculations - that are just ad-hoc proofs) you need the right level of verbosity. Oversaturation with low-level set theory steps from Burbaki won't make anyone understand systems of differential equations, but when you are unsure of a step, you need a bit more detail.

And in my experience the optimal trajectory through a proof is almost always different for everyone. So it'd be good if proofs were "discoverable", expand and collapse steps.

And we don't even have to go crazy with "reverse mathematics"-like axiom chasing. But the current practice of throwing random symbols on pages in LaTeX is rather suboptimal in my opinion.


This is not an interactive document in the sense Bret Victor proposes.


Coincidentally, I was reading this Wolfram post on much the same topic & point just this morning: http://blog.stephenwolfram.com/2014/08/computational-knowled...




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