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Just came to say that I really appreciate this comment and an example why I still read HN despite all of the signal-to-noise of startup hoopla's.

I want to second and say that when I was very young, I had the perspective of the coder who thought I was being meritocratic when I judged my lead or project manager by their technical worth, ability to lead, whatever; and thought what a dumb naive and pandering move my PM would do by bring Dunkin' Donuts Munchkin's to our morning meeting, but the truth is I judged him unconsciously for those Munchkin's; and after learning the hard way, I'm bringing out all of the proverbial Munchkin's of pandering/cajoling/politicking to everyone at work now.

I'd say for myself that I had once retreated to a purgatory of technical "proving ground". But it was a false purgatory with empty promises, and I'm slowly coming back to the harsh reality of the physical pecking order of lunch tables at junior high cafeteria. But it bothers me less because I realize now how petty both technical and social people are in their own ways.



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