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> In a short essay outlining the vision behind Internet.org, Mr. Zuckerberg says one of its goals is to offer credit and identity infrastructure “that is still nascent in many developing countries.” Such services might be of some help in developing countries. But is Facebook the best entity to provide them?

"Best" among what alternatives? If nobody else is providing these services, then Facebook may necessarily be the best by default. Of course we can imagine better ways. But those ways are imaginary until somebody actually shows they can do it.

And I have a hard time getting upset that Facebook might beat out Experian and friends to become the credit bureau of choice in some developing countries. Why should I have a dog in that fight?




> And I have a hard time getting upset that Facebook might beat out Experian and friends to become the credit bureau of choice in some developing countries. Why should I have a dog in that fight?

Put aside developing countries for a moment - in the US, the three credit bureaus are very heavily regulated, and as a consumer, you have a lot of rights regarding your credit report.

Experian must provide you with free access to your credit report every year, they must explicitly mark any negative information, they must give you the right to challenge any incorrect information, and even if negative information is correct, they can only hold onto it for a certain period of time.

They also are limited in the ways that they can share this information with others, and in the ways that they can join the information from your credit report with other information that they or others may have in order to create a more "complete" profile about you.

This regulation is all very good, as it limits the extent to which one's credit history can harm one's prospects at financial progress (or even basic necessities of life, as even rental applications often ask for your credit history). It also means that someone in their 40s is not still being held back by poor credit decisions from their 20s that caused them to declare bankruptcy in their early 30s.

If Facebook were actually subject to all of these same regulations (and we trusted them to abide by them), it would be one thing, but I'd be very skeptical of how Facebook would handle this responsibility either in the US or in developing countries.


    This regulation is all very good, as it limits the
    extent to which one's credit history can harm one's
    prospects at financial progress
Credit history can both help and hurt you. Imagine some people are Q and some are R, and Q-people are more likely to default on a loan than R-people. If we prohibit taking Q-vs-R status into account in making loans this is good for the Q-people because they'll get lower rates, but it hurts the R-people who will get charged higher rates.

Looking at your example of someone who made decisions in their 20s that left them with lots of debt, declared bankruptcy in their 30s, and now is trying to take out loans in their 40s. Do you think that they're more likely to default on these loans than someone who didn't go through that process in their 20s and 30s? If you do, then this is a Q-vs-R thing and one group is being helped but only by mixing them in with another group that's then hurt. (Or if you don't think they're more likely to default then they shouldn't be charged more for loans. And if they are charged more for loans, you/someone could go into business loaning to these people and make a bunch of money.)

Some examples are a lot harder than others, though. Say one race, as a group, tends to default a lot more. There are probably lots of reasons for this, with poverty being a big one, but say even after you take into account the rest of the data you can collect (income, age, years at job, profession) race still has lots of explanatory power for predicting whether someone will default. Should you be able to take this into account? This is another Q-vs-R thing, but it's not based on "poor financial decisions" or in fact anything within that individual's control.

On balance this regulation may well be beneficial, but we also need to acknowledge it has costs. (One thing in favor of regulation: the costs tend to fall on richer people and the benefits on poorer people, so because of the diminishing marginal value of money it could be worth it even if the benefits were smaller than the costs in absolute terms.)


Is access to small consumer loans really that significant among the problems facing Rwandans, Paraguayans and (I forget the other places[s])?

It seems to me that, if it were, there would already be a better solution than Facebook in place. Or if it is just about to be, that Facebook is unlikely - even with this project in place - to be in the best position to provide it. Unless they get really close with local regulators, but I doubt they have it in them to shimmy up with the local fuzz to be the most favoured credit bureau in Paraguay.


Because the people that live in those developing countries are fellow human beings, and generally have no economic/political power relative to Facebook and other MNCs.


This excuse has very often had the result of denying basic jobs and services to people in developing countries.

Like the GP said, "alternate ways" are imaginary until someone else does it. The best way to provide an alternate solution is to provide an alternate solution. The worst way to provide an alternate solution is to complain about it with that typical rich Westerner indignation that some people face harder choices than themselves, with the end result sometimes being that no solutions at all are provided.


Your comment made my day.




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