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If you can't buy or sell intimacy, then how can society accept it? Your position is nonsensical. Prostitution doesn't sell, buy or endanger intimacy; it only trades sex. Conflating the two is a result of people's own insecurity.

I think your right to free speech ends somewhere around the place where my right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness begins.

As long as my pursuit of happiness doesn't involve acts that you dislike, right? "You're free - to act as we tell you"




I limited myself to moral indignation, and tried to be very clear that moral indignation is not simply what a person happens to dislike. But, since apparently I was not clear, I specifically support your right to say a broad range of things that I dislike. If someone merely dislikes it, I feel like it is probably protected.

Regarding your comment on intimacy (by which I mean relational intimacy, not a euphemism for sex), all I can say is, there are some things that money can't buy, nor can be valued in money. Trust is one of them. True friendship is another. If you think that intimacy must be priceable or marketable to have a value, I submit that perhaps you have not experienced what I am talking about.

And unfortunately, without a long comment, I don't know how to explain my opinion that prostitution devalues intimacy. I will say that there are many people who feel that sex is more about relational intimacy than just a physical act or pleasure, although they may be a minority here (and quite possibly in the U.S. culture at large).


I limited myself to moral indignation, and tried to be very clear that moral indignation is not simply what a person happens to dislike. But, since apparently I was not clear, I specifically support your right to say a broad range of things that I dislike. If someone merely dislikes it, I feel like it is probably protected.

People can find moral indignation at anything. People from certain countries find women with uncovered heads truly indignant. It might have a difference from merely disliking, but in the end, it's just as subjective and meaningless.

Quoting Eminem, which is something I don't think I've ever done before, You find me offensive; I find you offensive for findin' me offensive.

And I'm not making a rhetorical point when I say attitudes like yours, who consider themselves superior to others and therefore worthy of deciding how others should live their lives, absolutely disgusting. Does that mean your opinions should be banned, as causes of moral indignation?

If you think that intimacy must be priceable or marketable to have a value

I don't see how you can possibly read that from my comment.

And unfortunately, without a long comment, I don't know how to explain my opinion that prostitution devalues intimacy.

How can see how prostitution devalues intimacy for the participants. But you're going to have to explain to me how does prostitution happening to other people devalues your intimacy.

And guess what: prostitution is still happening, even while illegal.

I will say that there are many people who feel that sex is more about relational intimacy than just a physical act or pleasure

Sex is just a physical act. Lobsters have sex. What your sexual activities are about is for you to decide. Just stop trying to impose your views on others. Because you won't accomplish it, you'll just hurt a lot of people and make sexual traffickers very happy.




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