Especially if you diverge from the "party line". Such truths hurt. Cf eg BugBrother's comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7795134) (no downvotes there incidentally...)
This would however all be comical if it wasn't so tragic.
"It seems that dictators generally need to make enemies out of the world's democracies."
The US (and Europe) has set out to antagonize not only Iran, but Russia, and China. For what reasons?
"This is so the populations don't start to get ideas about why their junta's steal so much money and they don't have any freedom. "Democracy and freedom are just lies -- the westerners are degenerates which tolerate homosexuality, etc."
Oh yeah, the evil easterners threatening our freedom.... So.. that the population don't get any ideas about the "elected" government's corruption (the military spending, the banks, the rich 1%, etc)?
Any form of government that "we" don't like is lying about everything -- the easterners are degenerate who tolerate nothing and support terrorism!
Don't waste your time. You can't help a person who has decided to hit rock bottom. They'll only bring you down with them. That's the tragedy.
You couldn't argue against my comment directly in place, because you were scared of getting an answer?
My point was that all undemocratic juntas need to have/create external enemies. That is hardly controversial. Today the democratic West seems to be preferred for the enemy role, so democratic opposition is treason.
>> Any form of government that "we" don't like is lying about everything
Well, you (and the juntas that can't lose elections) must be right, it is just a western conspiracy! Including those lying measurements of human/press/election/etc freedoms from Amnesty, HRW, etc!
It doesn't bother you to have the same opinions as disgusting dictators? But, of course, it is all USAs fault anyway?
I voted you up, for the humor. And for recommending to keep politics off HN.
Edit: Seriously, thanks. Your personal insults and parody of my position (hidden in another place!) was the closest I got to a relevant reply. (If you had a real answer you would have written that, so the insults say more about you than me.)
Edit 2: You even inverted my position, I never claimed "The US (and Europe) has set out to antagonize not only Iran, but Russia, and China."
Especially if you diverge from the "party line". Such truths hurt. Cf eg BugBrother's comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7795134) (no downvotes there incidentally...)
This would however all be comical if it wasn't so tragic.
"It seems that dictators generally need to make enemies out of the world's democracies."
The US (and Europe) has set out to antagonize not only Iran, but Russia, and China. For what reasons?
"This is so the populations don't start to get ideas about why their junta's steal so much money and they don't have any freedom. "Democracy and freedom are just lies -- the westerners are degenerates which tolerate homosexuality, etc."
Oh yeah, the evil easterners threatening our freedom.... So.. that the population don't get any ideas about the "elected" government's corruption (the military spending, the banks, the rich 1%, etc)?
Any form of government that "we" don't like is lying about everything -- the easterners are degenerate who tolerate nothing and support terrorism!
Don't waste your time. You can't help a person who has decided to hit rock bottom. They'll only bring you down with them. That's the tragedy.