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If I knew more about Prop 8 details, I'd comment on prop 8. I prefer the social and philosophical ideas around the wider debate, and the online activism overreaction, the tweeting Mozilla staff (who should just resign themselves IMHO).

If you're right that Prop 8 was about attacking gay people, then that sucks. This is where I'd like to hear from Eich on the matter. I've automatically assumed his innocence on the matter of gay-hatred, especially after reading his March 26 blog post.

Same-sex couples can still get married anyway, have a wedding without fear of the riot squad shutting the party down. Mickey Rooney married eight times. That's a lot of wedding parties. Definitely have the parties, the honeymoons. That stuff is the important stuff, then go after de-facto/unmarried/same-sex rights of couples.

Certificates for emergencies and so on, come on there's not actually that many rights. Some can be sorted out with co-habitation agreements and other arrangements.

What a sad thing for the Mozilla CEO that his own staff tweet against him just a day after his March 26 blog post promoting equality and stating he was open to advice from the LGBT community... https://brendaneich.com/2014/03/inclusiveness-at-mozilla/




The solution of having a "civil union" that takes care of that stuff and then "marriage" is up to the church is generally acceptable to the LGBT community. However, nobody from the other side is willing to do this either; they just want to bash the LGBT bunch.

> If you're right that Prop 8 was about attacking gay people, then that sucks.

It was. Sadly. And that's what pissed off a LOT of people. The Mormons swooped in and spent enormous amounts of money to get it passed. The Catholic church did too, but not as much as the Mormons.

> This is where I'd like to hear from Eich on the matter. I've automatically assumed his innocence on the matter of gay-hatred, especially after reading his March 26 blog post.

Don't. He believes this and is unapologetic. I suspect it's part of his religion.

I respect him for sticking to his position even though I find his position abhorrent. However, both he and Mozilla should have seen this coming and not put him in the CEO slot.

> Certificates for emergencies and so on, come on there's not actually that many rights. Some can be sorted out with co-habitation agreements and other arrangements.

It's NOT that easy. If it were, I suspect California would have done it already. "Marriage" winds its way through a lot of laws--power of attorney, medical emergency decisions, death benefits, child custody, divorce splits, alimony, adoption, the list goes on and on and on.

The stories of some bigoted doctor preventing a gay partner from visiting or making decisions while their loved one is dying are not uncommon. Can you imagine the lawsuit if that happened to a husband or wife of a traditional marriage? It would be so huge that it wouldn't even get to court.




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