> By the same token, are the don't-redefine-marriage people who live in Vegas trying to shut down the Elvis Chapel?

I don't know. Are they? I'm not really abreast of Las Vegas politics.

> I've given up trying to convince people like chc's friends and family.

What are you hoping to achieve with this conversation, then? Moral high ground?

Trying to point out the silliness of the "redefine marriage" argument, I guess. Feel free to ignore me.