I am specifically not talking about the NSA - incompetant to the poi t that a temporary worker for a contractor was anle to steal secret documents.
As for GCHQ oversight: it'd need to be a conspiracy spanning government (all parties); judiciary; etc. i'm not saying it couldn't happen, but the alternative (GCHQ lied; the oversight committees were incompetent) is easier to believe.
Right, and there was no reason to think I thought you were.
> As for GCHQ oversight: it'd need to be a conspiracy spanning government (all parties); judiciary; etc
Yeah, it seems unimaginable that one side of the same coin could be in cahoots with the other! If they tell us GCHQ is being carefully overseen so that it won't do anything naughty, then it must be true! Besides, they're probably only spying on those naughty terrorist foreigners - not Englishmen - so everything is alright!
It's already public knowledge that the GCHQ is saving a copy of every byte passing through England, but hey, they need to do that to fight pedophiles and terrorists, and.. racists, of course!
As for GCHQ oversight: it'd need to be a conspiracy spanning government (all parties); judiciary; etc. i'm not saying it couldn't happen, but the alternative (GCHQ lied; the oversight committees were incompetent) is easier to believe.
http://www.gchq.gov.uk/how_we_work/running_the_business/over...
http://isc.independent.gov.uk/
http://isc.intelligencecommissioners.com/default.asp
http://www.iocco-uk.info/
http://www.iocco-uk.info/docs/2012%20Annual%20Report%20of%20...