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I think of it as "no shame fits everyone" -- if you live in rural Pakistan -- it's the constant threat of drone attack. If you're a radical "arab" -- it's indefinite detention without appeal. For the intellectuals of the west, it's NSA.

I know I'm glad I personally don't have to (rationally) fear being disappeared or caught in a the blast of an hell-fire missile. At the same time, it's sad that people in the west, in general, seem to not really care about these abuses that happen on a physical level, and gets riled up just because privacy is invaded and we're all voting a new global Stasi into existence.

We seem to get the government we deserver, all around. Lets hope something good comes out of the global #occupy movement over the next decades.


Incorrect. Everybody gets the government the majority voted forth.

If there are two smart people in the room, and eight stupid people, the stupid people are gonna get what they want. At least if they stay in the room. If they're smart and have money they'll leave the room and buy the whole building - controlling all rooms in the building. I'm talking about the banksters and the bankster's masters (and maybe their masters also, I'm unsure as to how many levels of control exist).

Us little people are all getting fucked, no matter the color nor the wealth. We're not as rich and powerful as the people who are doing the fucking anyways.


Says one person to the seven others, rather than try to form a constructive consensus.

Giving up isn't going to help. Not giving up, might not work -- but it can't be much worse than the alternative.

And no, sitting at home, shaking ones head in disbelief over how "stupid" the majority are isn't "doing" something. I know I'm not the only one that can (should and must) do more -- because we're at the beginning of the end if not.

So, until we've all done all we can -- we get the government that we deserve.


> At least it isn't the biggest shame anymore. The NSA is it now.

That's simply not true. At least, not in the eyes of many.


No, Gitmo is far worse.




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