I don't think they're all that bad either... I mean if you're using IE then sure you can say they are terrible. But in the other browsers - they're actually pretty good. There is room for improvement - but for what we get it's pretty incredible. And you can implement headers that follow you in a table - it just requires writing some code, which you can say is bad.. but then if you go off and write in a native application I"m sure you'll be writing a lot more code than I will in my web app... the issues usually boil down to the client e.g. IE or the lack of native extensions in WebCore preventing the web app from performing better... yeah.. that's my two cents...