Some of these are already a write off. Paul Foster Bell has publicly said on Twitter that he will not reconsider as there are "real threats" in NZ and that IT company networks "need security" from the government. If you try debate this, they'll just block you: https://twitter.com/ow/status/369769923427307520
Ah the "I'm right and will not listen to anything that contradicts my view!" type. How the hell do such people get anything other then heaping helpings of scorn?