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Glad the NYT Editorial board has stepped up and been so blunt.

"But Americans should not be fooled by political leaders putting forward a false choice. The issue is not whether the government should vigorously pursue terrorists. The question is whether the security goals can be achieved by less-intrusive or sweeping means, without trampling on democratic freedoms and basic rights. Far too little has been said on this question by the White House or Congress in their defense of the N.S.A.’s dragnet. "



> "The question is whether the security goals can be achieved by less-intrusive or sweeping means, without trampling on democratic freedoms and basic rights. "

No, NYT, the question is how which security goals can be achieved without trampling on democratic freedoms and basic rights.

There is no security goal that justifies destroying freedom, as freedom is the motivation for our security goals.


Go ask the villagers in the unadministered lands of Afghanistan and Pakistan how their freedom from government is working out for them.

It's easy to say that security is completely unimportant when it's not your daughter being beaten and raped for being seen outside without a veil.


More like, it is easy to say that security is completely unimportant when you have spent your entire life in such a cocoon of security, you don't know what life is like outside of it.




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