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> Does that somehow make Obama more culpable for the surveillance state?

Actually, yes. Because back when people were angry enough about the issue, they focused all that anger on Bush. Then comes Obama and all that energy gets transformed into support for him because people honestly believed that he was different, that he was against ever-expanding warfare abroad and ever-shrinking civil liberties at home. And when he won in 2008, the people of this country, who were outraged at everything Bush had done, got their satisfaction.

There was vast public sentiment against this kind of thing. Obama subverted it and destroyed it.




He was actually given the Nobel Peace Prize for not being Bush - 100% subversion. I think it's not unfair to say that he's harmed American democracy more than Bush could have, by legitimizing every harmful thing Bush did.


Can the committee giving out that prize revoke it? And if so, have they ever done so in the past and under what pretenses?


They never revoked the ones they gave to Kissinger or Arafat. It's a bit of a sham to be honest.




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