I don't really know the designer market, but I was not arguing that bootstrap was overall a bad thing, but I get the impression that you don't need a designer to get a basic site off the ground, much like php or rails means you don't need a developer to get off the ground.
I would suggest we are eliminating the basement level of
incompetant design or development, at the cost of not having any basement level clients. This is again probably a good thing.
And yes discussion is going off on a tangent. Stopping now :-)
Edit : thinking it through I would say that the 99designs logo was actually unsatisfactory. It was not technically so (vector graphics, nice clean lines, looks vaguely cloud)
What it was not was anything to do with my business my values my goals or the clients I want to communicate with.
As such it was unsatisfactory - and I guess that's the pain point a good designer needs to beat. Just as I as a custom software developer needs to solve a clients actual problems to be more value than an off shelf product, same for designers.
Just wanted to point out the 99designs et al are not what I think a "designer" does.
I would suggest we are eliminating the basement level of incompetant design or development, at the cost of not having any basement level clients. This is again probably a good thing.
And yes discussion is going off on a tangent. Stopping now :-)
Edit : thinking it through I would say that the 99designs logo was actually unsatisfactory. It was not technically so (vector graphics, nice clean lines, looks vaguely cloud)
What it was not was anything to do with my business my values my goals or the clients I want to communicate with.
As such it was unsatisfactory - and I guess that's the pain point a good designer needs to beat. Just as I as a custom software developer needs to solve a clients actual problems to be more value than an off shelf product, same for designers.
Just wanted to point out the 99designs et al are not what I think a "designer" does.
ok now really stopping