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> at the end of the day I'm still relying on a single company to hold the keys to many accounts

Actually, with Persona, you're not. :)

Persona has a fully decentralized architecture. The centralization you're seeing right now is completely temporary, and only serves as a bootstrapping convenience. If you own your own domain you can turn it into a Persona Identity Provider and start minting your own identity certificates today, without Mozilla (or any other single company) being forced into the trust path.




Aha, it's for Bootstrapping!

Awesome, good to hear. I saw the thing about Identity Providers and got excited, but then I logged in and was like... aww..

So, hopefully Google will be doing it soon with Gmail/Google Apps!


We're going to build a Persona <-> Gmail OpenID bridge soon. Probably launching in May or June. It'll almost be like Google supports it directly. :) After that will come Google Apps support.


You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.

I'll submit a feature request to Spotify to get them to support Persona log in. When Gmail and Spotify are gone I'll be two big steps closer to getting rid of that pesky Facebook account ;)


Why, do you have an @spotify.com email address? :P


Yeah but your bridge will still know where I log in, no? I mean, it's great, but it would be even greater if Google supported it natively.


Actually, it won't. You'll OpenID auth into google.login.persona.org, and then get a straight up Persona certificate signed by that fallback, along with all of the privacy safeguards that has.


Oh, very nice. Is there a way to get in the beta?


Honestly, we haven't quite figured out a good way to do a "beta" or partial roll-out for this without breaking other users. Yaaaay decentralization! Instead, we'll be extensively QA'ing it in testing environments, and then we'll flip a big switch to enable it for everyone.


Hopefully Google will do so - and then the bridge can be turned off!


We wouldn't even have to turn it off -- as soon as gmail.com can vouch for its own users, the protocol automatically and preferentially switches over to that. The centralized parts fall away on their own whenever they can. :)


Hear, hear.

EDIT: Oh, can I help beta test it?




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