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Aaron Swartz v. United States (2011) (law.harvard.edu)
228 points by DanielRibeiro on Jan 12, 2013 | hide | past | favorite | 17 comments



I hope this comes up in Congress. The United States never should have been a party to this -- it should have been a civil issue between JSTOR, MIT, and Aaron. (or criminal misdemeanor trespassing if they really wanted that.)

Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney, should be called before Congress to account for this.


Agreed. It's absurd that a simple civil matter is turned into a criminal one with a possible penalty of 35 years in jail.

And this not even considering the recent tragic event. :(


. The United States never should have been a party to this -- it should have been a civil issue between JSTOR, MIT, and Aaron.

Except, you know...the fact that Congress passed a law a while ago that made this a crime.

This should come up in Congress because what Aaron did should not be a felonious act. At best, it should be an infraction (i.e., the lowest type of civil misconduct, like jaywalking).

But the fault lies with Congress for making this a crime, not Ms. Ortiz for enforcing the laws is ethically and legally bound to enforce.


She went vastly beyond what was required of her in charging him with a whole litany of offenses, several of which Congress most likely didn't intend to apply to situations like this (CFAA to TOS violations).

This was because Aaron was a bit of a gadfly, and had gotten out of the PACER situation earlier, so he was already on their enemies list.

Congress was also at fault for passing a bunch of stupid laws, but that doesn't excuse Ortiz. It also doesn't excuse Aaron for killing himself and not getting help. There's plenty of blame to go around.


I don't know how much more simply to state this:

As a consequence of prosecutorial "discretion" exercised during the jim crow days of the segregated South, federal prosecutors do not have discretion about which laws to prosecute. Once they have been presented a case, they are required to prosecute if the presentation of evidence is sufficient to suggest that a crime has been committed.

Only upper management of the DOJ (i.e., above Ms. Ortiz) or the president can issue orders not to enforce certain laws.

Thus, this does excuse Ms. Ortiz. She's just doing her job. If you don't like that, change the scope of her job by getting her superiors to end enforcement of the laws at issue.


You seem to be a lawyer, and I'm not, so thanks for your information. I know a lot more about computer security theory and practice than the US federal laws; there are pretty clear lines way before "crime" which I try to stay within, myself.

As far as I can tell, CFAA was not violated, at least under the narrow (i.e. correct) interpretation of the 9th circuit. There is a circuit split right now. 1st hasn't ruled at all, so she could easily have looked to the 9th for guidance on this and not included CFAA charges.

There was no "protection" at MIT or at JSTOR, so I don't see how fraud or unauthorized access, etc. applied. He scraped a website. He may have trespassed at MIT. If net-18 restriction is considered "protection", wtf (certainly a server on a secure LAN is protected by being only on the secure LAN, but a server limited to US-only access and accessed via a proxy is not. IMO Net-18 is a lot closer to national restrictions at YouTube than a security policy, since any guest could walk in and have access.

I don't see "recklessly damaging a computer" as applying at all. Wire Fraud is essentially free always.

Turning these into multiple counts for the same offense is also BS.


He may be a lawyer, but he is completely wrong in this and most of his other assertions.

Justice.gov. Verbatim quote "The USA is invested by statute and delegation from the Attorney General with the broadest discretion in the exercise of such authority."

http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/tit...

  The United States Attorney, within his/her district, has 
  plenary authority with regard to federal criminal matters. 
  This authority is exercised under the supervision and 
  direction of the Attorney General and his/her delegates.

  The statutory duty to prosecute for all offenses against 
  the United States (28 U.S.C. § 547) carries with it the 
  authority necessary to perform this duty. The USA is 
  invested by statute and delegation from the Attorney 
  General with the broadest discretion in the exercise of 
  such authority.


You are flatly wrong. Please stop posting misinformation.

"The USA [US Attorney] is invested by statute and delegation from the Attorney General with the broadest discretion in the exercise of such authority."

http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/tit...

  The United States Attorney, within his/her district, has 
  plenary authority with regard to federal criminal matters. 
  This authority is exercised under the supervision and 
  direction of the Attorney General and his/her delegates.

  The statutory duty to prosecute for all offenses against 
  the United States (28 U.S.C. § 547) carries with it the 
  authority necessary to perform this duty. The USA is 
  invested by statute and delegation from the Attorney 
  General with the broadest discretion in the exercise of 
  such authority.

  The authority, discretionary power, and responsibilities of 
  the United States Attorney with relation to criminal 
  matters encompass without limitation by enumeration the 
  following:

  Investigating suspected or alleged offenses against the 
  United States, see USAM 9-2.010;

  Causing investigations to be conducted by the appropriate 
  federal law enforcement agencies, see USAM 9-2.010;

  Declining prosecution, see USAM 9-2.020;

  Authorizing prosecution, see USAM 9-2.030;

  Determining the manner of prosecuting and deciding trial 
  related questions;

  Recommending whether to appeal or not to appeal from an 
  adverse ruling or decision, see USAM 9-2.170;

  Dismissing prosecutions, see USAM 9-2.050; and

  Handling civil matters related thereto which are under the 
  supervision of the Criminal Division.


If you are unable to make the link between Swartz's absurd criminal indictment and his suicide in the light of this post, and/or if after reading it, you still view the possibility of his suicide being primarily linked to causes other than the indictment as on par with it being linked to the indictment, you should perhaps hear Jacob Appelbaum's recent C3 talk [1], where he details the state oppression he, his mentally ill mother, and his various acquaintances have been under due to his link with Wikileaks.

[1] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4977338


Perhaps a coincidence, but the choice of date—the anniversary of his arrest—feels rather convincing.

"Since his arresting the early morning of January 11, 2011 — two years to the day before Aaron Swartz ended his life..." http://lessig.tumblr.com/post/40347463044/prosecutor-as-bull...


Aaron appears to have committed suicide as a result of a mental illness (i.e., clinical depression) which was exacerbated by the criminal case against him. It wasn't the criminal case that killed him; it was his mental illness.

The fact that he has a mentally ill mother is strong evidence of this, since mental illness has a genetic component (especially depression and schizophrenia).


> Aaron appears to have committed suicide as a result of a mental illness (i.e., clinical depression) which was exacerbated by the criminal case against him. It wasn't the criminal case that killed him; it was his mental illness.

His family and partner, perhaps the people who have been closest to him in recent times, seem to disagree with you [1][2].

> The fact that he has a mentally ill mother is strong evidence of this

Is that indeed a fact, or did you just happen to incorrectly infer that from my sentence? I was talking about Appelbaum's mother, not Swartz's. My point in citing Appelbaum was to denote that Swartz is not an isolated case; the US justice system has been systematically acting as an instrument of oppression against dissidents (and increasingly more frequently, against those active in the production and critique of technology) whom it perceives as adversaries of its federal and corporate sponsors.

[1] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5049225

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5047398


I don't have time to go over the several dozen Aaron-related posts or HN threads from today until tomorrow to provide cites, but many of Aaron's posts linked to on HN (including, especially the Batman post) display many signs of severe clinical depression. I'm not a doctor, so I'm not saying that he did kill himself as a result of a medical illness with any degree of certainty. But I am saying, based on my past experience representing defendants with mental illness, that it probably played a role in his suicide.

Also, the family does not say anything that disagrees with what I said. They state merely that the criminal case "contributed to" Aaron's death. That is an actual quote from [1].


> merely

That's some rather selective reading on your part. You ignore the context in his mother's statement on HN that he was "depressed about the case and the upcoming trial" (indicating perhaps that his depression and the pressure brought by the indictment are inseparable), and cherry-pick a particular sentence to support your own view, rather than try to hear the tone and spirit of the statement. The fact that the family chose to come forward with such a clear and bold statement condemning particular institutions on the day of their loss alone is proof enough that they strongly believe MIT and the DA's office played a critical part in what happened.


The fact that the family chose to come forward with such a clear and bold statement condemning particular institutions on the day of their loss alone is proof enough that they strongly believe MIT and the DA's office played a critical part in what happened.

Families usually say things like this the same day a loved one dies, so their statements today are proof of nothing. It is their statements next week or next month that indicate how they feel about MIT and the USDOJ's role in Aaron's death.

"depressed about the case and the upcoming trial" (indicating perhaps that his depression and the pressure brought by the indictment are inseparable),

Of course they are inseparable--most defendants do get at least a little depressed when they are facing criminal charges. But the one thing that 99.9999% of defendants have in common is that they don't kill themselves, especially not before they are convicted, unless they have a serious mental illness. The number of white collar federal defendants who have committed suicide prior to trial in the past decade can be counted on a single hand.

Let's get this straight: I do think that the criminal case pushed Aaron over the edge and if you go far enough back in my posts I am usually blaming prosecutors for the overzealous and unethical behavior. If this case had gone to trial, I would probably be railing against the egregious prosecutorial misconduct of the case. But I place the blame for Aaron's death solely on his shoulders, because he is the one who made the decision to kill himself.


> I do think that the criminal case pushed Aaron over the edge

> But I place the blame for Aaron's death solely on his shoulders

Quoted for emphasis.


the blog links through to this article, which I found quite insightful: http://www.litigationandtrial.com/2011/07/articles/series/sp...




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