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Regression and extraction (37signals.com)
50 points by masnick on Nov 14, 2012 | hide | past | favorite | 14 comments



All valid points.

I do suspect, though, that "the ones who came before" noticed this years ago. Things are worse (re: patents and app stores), but the idea of the industry slowly taking a turn for the worst while nobody notices are not new concerns.

I'd love to hear someone who's been programming for 40 years comment on this. I don't even know who to ask...


I'd love to hear from someone who's been programming for 40 years too.

Until then, here's a jpg (http://i53.tinypic.com/2janfrd.jpg)

> "This is the computer industry as it used to be: people sharing ideas and solutions without the greed and grit with associated with today's corporate driven, litigation-laced, industry"

(Second column, near the bottom)

That was written over 20 years ago.


I really liked how Jacques Mattheij described this cyclic nature of our industry: http://www.jacquesmattheij.com/the-pendulum-swings-again


I love that Compuserve is $11.75 an HOUR, and the description of online chatting as a "CB Simulator".


I would pay for a way to use my iphone as a CB while on the road. I had a CB in college and it was really great to have while on road trips.

I'd love to be able to open an app on my phone and ask the nearest semi driver what the traffic deal is, or where the "bears in the caves taking pictures" are ;-)


Yes! Those are mid 1980s dollars too, so it's about $23 per hour today. (According to the first inflation adjusted dollars website I found).

According to this Atari magazine (http://www.atarimagazines.com/creative/v11n2/30_Telecommunic...) modem speeds were just about 2400 BPS in 1985, but that 300 BPS modems were still widely used. (I had a sudden flashback reading that about the easy use of either baud or bps for modem speed.)

And it's funny that it ends with the "wristwatch" computer - obviously now we know the screen is too tiny and we haven't made enough progress in battery technology. I do wonder what the 1985 people would have made of smart phones.


In addition, a larger and larger portion of a nation's GDP is now taken up by the financial industry which has gone from primarily allocating capital to businesses, to primarily using high frequency, algorithmic, and derivatives-based trading to extract wealth from the economy.

The other of the U.S.'s greatest problems, healthcare, has more to do with entrenched interests and inertia of doctor education and salaries, and a middleman-based payment system preventing the formation of a actual, competitive market (except for, for example, lasik, one of the few procedures that's gotten both cheaper and better over time).

Patents, too, are inertia, political leaders having a record number of years in incumbency, settling into staleness and nobody willing to make bold changes, think them up, or even listen to people who have.


The longest-lasting businesses in history are small to mid-sized - at most a few hundred employees - and they are (unsurprisingly) all in timeless, age-old industries. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_companies ) The huge British East Indias of the world become entangled with government and rise and fall at the whims of politics.

This makes me believe there's some kind of definable relationship between money extracted, business size, business lifecycle, and benefit to society. A startup with ambitions of being very big, profitable and influential is declaring that it wants to lead civilization in a certain way. But if it achieves size and profit by simply decreasing benefits and increasing extraction, it's actually a corrupting force; post-hoc charity can't change that.

And in technology, every wave of new possibilities pulls a few corruptors along for the ride, in part because we don't always know at the outset whether they're ultimately a good or bad force. As well, the really long-term influences often appear to lie dormant for a long time... ideas from academia take forever to be used in industry, and broad demographic changes in usage can take a decade.


I agree with David's general thesis and the items on the list except for the App Stores.

Naturally government-oriented influences like the patent system and regulations are monopolistic. Net neutrality is monopolistic because the backbone infrastructure is in the hands of a relative few number of infrastructure owners. Often, where you live determines the connection to your house and that's a monopoly often enforced by municipal contracts.

App Stores are the only item on his list that are not quite monopolistic in nature. As such, new competitors can come along at any time to unseat App Stores that are failing to provide enough value to consumers.


Yes, that's the black and white market vs government worldview. The App Store thing turns this black and white thinking on its head. It is oligopolistic from a practical standpoint, for people making and distributing of mobile applications.


Is my worldview artificial or somehow contrived? If I REALLY don't like my phone's app store, I can switch phones. If I don't like my government's policies, I have to move to a new country.

Don't pay Apple and you don't get an iPhone. Don't pay the Govt and you go to jail. Jailbreak an iPhone, breaking Apple's terms and conditions and they won't service your phone. Break the Patriot Act's Gag Rules and you're squirreled away to PMITA prison.

If Apple makes stupid decision after stupid decision, they lose their dominance. If they are too reckless with their finances, they lose their business and possibly go to Jail. If Govt is reckless with its finances it just points at corporate scapegoats and raises taxes. No one goes to jail and this last election shows that no one will even be held accountable by the mostly ignorant voting public.

It's not like I'm making up the basis of this worldview out of thin air. Have you seen what's happening in Southern Europe? Turn on world news (from networks outside of the USA), open a browser, wake up...


App Stores are monopolistic on the platform they serve. If I want to build Mac Apps, I have to go through the App Store. Yes, I could make it a web app, but that would limit the types of apps I can create.


Before he listed the threats, I immediately thought "App stores" due to my recent debacle with Apple. Bam, there it was listed. Great article.


Net neutrality: Imagine if you had to enter separate agreements with every ISP in the world to get full-speed access to all your potential customers. Only the established elite would be able to navigate such shark-infested waters.

-- sounds like FB promoted posts?




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