Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

I agree. Tahoe is disgustingly unusable; I'm happy that Alan Dye left Apple.

I hope Apple will backtrack on Liquid Glass after Tahoe. Otherwise, I'll just switch to Linux.

 help



Steve Lemay, who now replaced Alan Dye as the design lead, allegedly was a driving force behind Liquid Glass and deeply involved in its development, so I wouldn’t expect any reversal. (https://www.macrumors.com/2026/03/15/ios-27-macos-27-no-majo...)

They will likely tweak it but very unlikely that they’ll remove it altogether, especially with the upcoming touch screen MacBook Pro.

Companies like Apple typically don’t make reversals quickly (the butterfly keyboard took years to remedy).


They'll do what they always do, it'll be the greatest thing ever just getting minor tweaks for 3-4 releases and then will be superseded by the greatest thing ever.

Your "upcoming" touch MacBook Pro has been a pipe dream of apple consumers for 2 decades now

I’d even say pipe dream of just Apple commentators and pundits. I’ve yet to hear from a normal, real-life Mac user who legitimately wishes for a touchscreen MacBook.

Sorry to break your streak but I'm a "real-life Mac user who legitimately wishes for a touchscreen MacBook", but maybe you may argue that I'm holding it wrong and my wish is illegitimate :)

Nope, no bad faith here, I’d genuinely like to hear your use cases for the touchscreen.

I just hope you could exclude speculative new interfaces and gestures in future macOS that straight-up cannot be done with a mouse. In which case, yeah, the TouchBook would be degrading the experience for me and a huge portion of Mac users, thus making me sad.


I just don't want to switch to an ipad when I want to sketch something. Also some tagging interfaces for photo review work exceptionally well with a touch screen. So I don't want to carry a macbook pro and and ipad, long story short.

> I just hope you could exclude speculative new interfaces and gestures in future macOS that straight-up cannot be done with a mouse

I agree 100%. I'm already annoyed about how some stuff that's easy to do with a touchpad are straight-up broken with a normal mouse.


Kids raised on iPads totally try and touch three laptop screen, ah it's not all Internet pundits who want one.

A kid raised on an animal sounds toy keyboard might also expect the computer to go “moo” when pressing the “M” key, but that doesn’t mean Apple should build that in. Expectations from previous platforms sometimes don’t fit others, and can be unlearned.

Why would they backtrack? Alan Dye wasn't the only person at Apple pushing this with God-like powers overriding everyone's decisions. [1]

New head of design, surprise surprise: Apple's new software design chief, Steve Lemay, was "a driving force" behind Liquid Glass and was "deeply involved in its development." https://www.macrumors.com/2026/03/15/ios-27-macos-27-no-majo...

[1] I have small rant about this pervasive view here: https://dmitriid.com/the-curious-case-of-alan-dye


Just swap to Linux if you don’t have a true reason to stay on Mac. I flipped last April and man, it is wonderful. Bazzite boot, no windows partition or anything. It just works.

Plus I have a 2016 MBpro I keep around in case I absolutely need a Mac (rare). Usually it’s an old drive formatted for Mac and I don’t feel like futzing around with software that allows it to read on my main computer.


> disgustingly unusable

Any specifics in mind? I, personally, haven't noticed much, beyond the initial difficulty in resizing windows.


A lot of the controls are unreadable depending on the background behind it, for example. Which is crazy. Sometimes it's also hard to figure out if something is a control, part of a site/application, a visual bug, or something else.

They've even doubled down on it, I don't see this going away in the next 2 major OS versions. I expect them to have a lot of WWDC sessions about it again this year.

That said, Apple's own apps are a crazy mixed up mess of different design systems and technologies, so maybe it will all fall apart and something new comes along in ±3 years time.


> Tahoe is disgustingly unusable

I think Tahoe looks pretty good all things considered. Maybe fix just a few little minor UI issues and it'd be perfect to me.


Will you really switch?

There are so many other wonderful reasons to switch beyond “my current OS has a few issues”.

And it’s not as if Linux is without issues either.

I mean if Linux was “SO GREAT” why are you bothering with an inferior OS now. Just switch already.




Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: