> I've never seen an age verification scratch card sold anywhere
It isn't something that exists today.
> Your ID is collected at retail...
You know perfectly well I already addressed that whole argument in my original comment. I know you're philosophically opposed to age verification (a perfectly valid opinion), but that's no reason to tear down strawmen.
> Even just being able to link a used card back to the time/place it was purchased could be enough to ID someone
Even when close to every adult is buying them every year? Doubt. But in any case also addressed with alternatives in my original comment.
> I could upload a spreadsheet of 1 million unredeemed scratch off codes to the internet
You can't, for the same reason you can't just get unsold gift card codes on the internet.
> I reject the premise that proving my identity to a website is necessary
Again, a valid and reasonable position. But how long will the internet continue to operate like that?
> Of course, "Think of the children" is really only the excuse. Surveillance and control is the real motivation
Also mostly correct. Now I don't think children should be on social media. Whether or not there's a government ban, I'll do my best to keep my kids off it. The spooks are taking advantage of "save the children" voters to advance their own agenda. If it's possible to satisfy the "save the children" crowd, without violating anyone's privacy, then the spooks lose their support.
The alternative is to sit around as age gates get thrown up and you have to upload your passport to do anything.
It isn't something that exists today.
> Your ID is collected at retail...
You know perfectly well I already addressed that whole argument in my original comment. I know you're philosophically opposed to age verification (a perfectly valid opinion), but that's no reason to tear down strawmen.
If you care at all, here's the proposal in full: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46447282
> Even just being able to link a used card back to the time/place it was purchased could be enough to ID someone
Even when close to every adult is buying them every year? Doubt. But in any case also addressed with alternatives in my original comment.
> I could upload a spreadsheet of 1 million unredeemed scratch off codes to the internet
You can't, for the same reason you can't just get unsold gift card codes on the internet.
> I reject the premise that proving my identity to a website is necessary
Again, a valid and reasonable position. But how long will the internet continue to operate like that?
> Of course, "Think of the children" is really only the excuse. Surveillance and control is the real motivation
Also mostly correct. Now I don't think children should be on social media. Whether or not there's a government ban, I'll do my best to keep my kids off it. The spooks are taking advantage of "save the children" voters to advance their own agenda. If it's possible to satisfy the "save the children" crowd, without violating anyone's privacy, then the spooks lose their support.
The alternative is to sit around as age gates get thrown up and you have to upload your passport to do anything.