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I'm always astonished by the idea that, were it not for patents and the profits they promise, "no motivation to develop drugs would exist".

At one point I worked with a group that raised money to finance medical research for patients with lupus. These were folks who were seen as too few, and suffering from something too complex, to be profitable. For the most part they were relying on some pretty toxic treatments that hadn't progressed since the 1950's - the pharmaceutical equivalent of pre-anastasia surgery.

Believe me, the people suffering from this were HIGHLY motivated to find a cure, and given an organization capable of focusing that interest, they've raised millions upon millions of dollars* to do exactly that. This was an early form of crowd-funding and it just obliterates the argument that "without patents, there's no motivation to cure stuff."

I'm sorry, but that is absolutely, categorically, and demonstrably false. If people are sick and dying, they have bottomless motivation. Indeed, the extraordinarily high prices people people put on their own lives ("my kingdom for a horse!") represents a profound reservoir of motivation.

The patent and approval system diffuses this deep and natural drive, replacing it with the more limited motivation offered by monopolistic rent-seeking (which aims not to cure disease, but to make it 'manageable').

The thing about an awful disease is that it develops a sense of community. I cannot imagine, for instance, someone who has raised a lot of money to find a cure saying, "yeah, but fuck the next generation that comes along and gets hit with the same affliction - those guys are on their own. WE paid for this, and the cure is OURS. They can reinvent their own damn wheel if they want to live."

Just...no, that's not how people think. What they really think is that in devoting themselves to finding a cure, they are finding a valuable role for themselves in a society that tends to see them as victims. It's how they recover a sense of self-worth and dignity. They are PROUD to pay it forward. Indeed, one of the top sentiments I heard from people I interviewed was "I want to find a cure so that no one else anywhere in the world ever has to suffer what I've gone through because NOBODY deserves this."

THAT's what real decency sounds like. And it's what our patent system frustrates in a very profound way. I know the pharmaceutical industry is always brought up as the tough case against patent reform - the exception that "must" be made in any discussions tending towards to liberalization. I'd argue the opposite. I'd say that this is one of the easiest cases to make. Maybe not a decade ago, but as the organizing power of the internet comes into focus, I can see a world where direct and massively distributed research finance is the norm, with the results made openly available to the entire world.

People who are sick used to feel terribly isolated. Thanks to the internet, that's changing. They're finding they discover others going through the same thing, and that they can use the same channels to pool their resources. Were they given tax credits, their resources would increase substantially. And they don't want to "manage" their diseases. They want to cure them. Researchers working on behalf of people trying to solve their own problem pursue tacks different from those who are working from companies looking to exploit that problem most profitably. And when people finding their own cures succede, their natural impulse is to share their triumph with all mankind, the world over, not start trade wars over IP that use the pain and death of millions already in - or facing - poverty as leverage.

*People who say research costs billions, not millions have been suckered by the most pernicious line of bullshit imaginable. The "billions" figure does not represent actual R&D costs, which, in a shocking number of cases, represent single-digit percentages of pharmaceutical company budgets. Instead, they represent the fully loaded costs of maintain legal departments to protect patents and marketing departments to push drugs in cases where they have marginal or negative value. Inflating the reported development costs into the billions is simply propaganda designed to make any system that doesn't involve patents seem like a financial impossibility.




Tens of millions of dollars won't get a drug to market. Will it fund research that could find useful leads that could produce a drug? Of course.

So how do you incentive private organizations to fork over the $100 million(1) or so it takes to get a drug to market? You provide a mechanism to regain your capital plus something more. It's a system that works pretty well.

(1) That's if everything works the first time. Since only 1 out of 10 drugs that are tested on humans get to market, it's closer to $1 billion on average.


"it's closer to $1 billion on average."

As mentioned, that's a hugely suspicious "fact". As noted by the National Center for Biotechnology Information.

"In the March 2003 edition of the Journal of Health Economics, a trio of economists from the United States wrote about a number. Soon after, that number began popping up all over the place — in newspapers and political speeches, on television and the Internet. But the figure, despite reaching near-canonical status, drew criticism. Some said it was inflated. Less diplomatic detractors said it was a 9-digit fairy tale.

That number was 802,000,000. It was, according to the 2003 study, the number of US dollars that pharmaceutical companies spent, on average, to bring a new drug to market (J Health Econ 2003;22[2]:151-85). Now there are new numbers. Some health economists peg the current cost of drug development at US$1.3 billion, others at US$1.7 billion."

Full article here.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2630351/

Key point: the data used to come up with the original number came from an industry financed source and was not made public. And here's a bit more coverage that throws additional cold water on 10 figure costs.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/drug-...

While the actual costs remain unknown, it's a safe bet that they're nothing like the inflated figures being circulated by the industry.


I agree that the numbers thrown around are often a lot of hand waving. However, let me make a few points few points.

1. Check out the Tufts Center for the Study of Drug Development. They calculate the cost to create a new drug and their methodology is very transparent.

http://csdd.tufts.edu/research/research_milestones

2. You can do a simple sniff test on these numbers. Simply call up a CRO that runs clinical trials and ask "What will it cost me to run a Phase III clinical trial?" I did this recently for a project I was working on. They will freely give the numbers about since they are all in competition with each other.

This is what a recent survey of CROs found[1]: "As for the average per-patient trial costs across all therapeutic areas, in Phase I, costs rose from $15,023 in 2008 to $21,883 in 2011. In Phase II, the cost rose from $21,009 to $36,070. In Phase IIIa, the cost increased from $25,280 to $47,523 and in Phase IIIb, cost jumped from $25,707 to $47,095. Finally, Phase IV expenses rose from $13,011 to $17.042."

Let's do some simple calculations. 1000 patients, 1 year trial. You need to complete two Phase III trials to keep the FDA happy.

1000 patients * $47,000 * 2 = $94M

And that's only for phase III trials. Add in the cost of discovery, pre-clinical work, formulation, Phase I, Phase II, all the paperwork with the FDA.

OK, great, now you're approved, you still need to actually make the drug which includes scale-up, testing, FDA certification of the manufacturing process, packing and distribution.

When I was working at a big pharma company, I heard about a new manufacturing site they had built in anticipation of a really big drug being approved. The cost? Several hundred million dollars. What happen when the drug got rejected by the FDA? The manufacturing site was written off (couldn't really be used to make anything else).

That's why your drugs cost so much.

[1]http://www.pharmalot.com/2011/07/clinical-trial-costs-for-ea...


Do you think Big Pharma has an interest in keeping these costs high to prevent competition?


I guess that raises a few questions.

1) How do they keep them high? They are buying these services from a third-party.

2) These cost of clinical trials is increasing because FDA evidence requirements are getting stricter and stricter. Back in the 1950s, you could get a drug approved in under 2 years. Now? It's more like 5-8 years. Of course, you end up with much safer drugs this way.


I think #2 answers #1. AKA, they have pushed legislation to increase FDA requirements.


Actually this a well known process known as regulatory capture.

Where the regulated industry ends up in some kind of symbiosis with its regulator, encouraging it to both grow and to keep competition at bay.

The conflict between the regulators and the regulated industry is largely a farce as they know they need each other.


Considering drug companies are always fighting with the FDA to do the bare minimum in terms of clinical studies, I would fathom to guess that your theory can't be supported with the existing evidence.


I have heard that drug patents are trivially circumvented by adding some irrelevant part to the active molecule. Instead it is the FDA approval process that prevents ripoffs.

Doesn't that mean pharma is the one industry where patents could be abolished with literally no consequence?


It is true that you can get around a patent by creating a slightly different molecule. However, drug companies aren't stupid. When they patent a drug, they are patenting a pretty big space around their molecule of interest. Pretty much every modification you can think of, they will patent. The resulting patents aren't just one molecule but rather an IP "space".


That doesn't follow. If patents were abolished companies that spent nothing on development would be able to produce the exact drug that the FDA had approved.


You know what else will drive up the costs? Running bad trial after bad trial after bad trial, burying the results, and only publishing if and when you finally come up with something positive.

Not only does this provide a dangerously (murderously?) distorted view of the compound in question, it means patients (read: victims) will be paying exponentially more for their "treatments".

It's an increasingly sordid business, and not one that can be defended in good conscience. As the Economist notes in its current review of "Bad Pharma" "This is a book that deserves to be widely read, because anyone who does read it cannot help feeling both uncomfortable and angry."

http://www.economist.com/node/21563689


Funding the expensive regulatory process (which includes clinical trials and all the rest) is very easy to legislate. For example, grant a company some limited exclusive rights for commerce/sale of a drug they have funded through clinical trials.

A commercial restriction on the sale of a drug would be far less onerous and legally problematic than the current patent system.


>For example, grant a company some limited exclusive rights for commerce/sale of a drug they have funded through clinical trials.

Eh, isn't that the textbook definition of a patent?


Not quite.

A patent is granted for the invention of a drug, not the testing. If the monopoly were tied to the approval process, it would be limited to the country where the approval was granted. So shepherding a drug through the FDA approval process would get you a monopoly in the US, but not other countries.

Also, you can patent drugs that haven't been approved, which makes it basically impossible for anyone else to do the clinical trials. Breaking the link between the research and the approval process would make it easier for effective drugs to get tested and approved.

Finally, sure, that scheme would be a lot like patents. But at the very least it would be specific to the drug industry, where they are (maybe) useful, and wouldn't distort other industries where patents are actively harmful.


They do that now (to an extent).

If you get your drug approved by the FDA, you get 5 years of market exclusivity (12 years of it's a biologic). However, it has to be determined by the FDA to be a NCE (new chemical entity). Right now, a company called Amarin is trying to get a drug approved that has no patent and they are hope to get the FDA to recognize their drug as an NCE.

If it for a very rare disease (orphan drug), you get 7 years of exclusivity (still 12 if it's a biologic).

During that time, no other application for the same NCE and indication will be approved by the FDA, giving the first applicant de facto market exclusivity in lieu of a actual patent.


That's awesome. In my mind, that lets a lot of air out of the pharmaceutical argument for patents.


Ah, I see what you're saying now. That makes quite a bit of sense, especially if it applied only to drugs and medical devices.


>I'm sorry, but that is absolutely, categorically, and demonstrably false. If people are sick and dying, they have bottomless motivation.

Yes, but they don't have bottomless wallets. I'm sure a great deal of research would still happen in the absence of large potential profits. The problem is very little of it would lead to drugs your doctor could prescribe. The drug targets are the easy part - the hard part is getting a compound through clinical trials, and ones you get approved has to pay for the other 90% that didn't make it because they were too toxic or didn't work as well as existing treatments.

As a real-world case consider antibiotics. There's a huge need for new antibiotics - if you get the right strain of MRSA your doctor is going to be about as useful as the local faith healer. Same goes for a nasty strain of the clap that's making the rounds in Japan. Totally resistant to existing antibiotics - once you get it, it's not going away.

But for various reasons there's no money in antibiotics (or vaccines, either, but let's just stick with antibiotics). You don't get repeat customers, and the bugs will start to develop resistance in a few years. With no profit motive drug companies aren't doing what they need to do to bring new antibiotics to market. So there's nothing in the pipeline.

The concern, of course, is that if you did away with patents entirely every type of drug would be like antibiotics. Drug companies wouldn't exist at all, or they'd exist as contractors to governments (oh, and wouldn't that be efficient).


    Yes, but they don't have bottomless wallets. 
In some respects they do: often government or insurers are left with costs. The insurers make their margin upstream of this, so there's low price pressure on the drug manufacturers.

Also, demand for drugs is often inelastic, so people are more likely to make sacrifices here to pay for drugs. Which is fine in itself, but not when the high costs are the product of a cartel arrangement between government and industry.


>In some respects they do: often government or insurers are left with costs. The insurers make their margin upstream of this, so there's low price pressure on the drug manufacturers.

But governments and insurers don't save money by saving your life. They save money by letting you die before you get old. That was the ironic thing about the tobacco settlements in the US - the states sued the federal government claiming damages for the extra care they had to provide to people who smoked, when those people would have cost the state more money if they'd lived a normal lifespan.

In some cases a new drug will save money by keeping some damaging disease from becoming a problem and pushing expensive treatments far into the future. That's not the normal case, though. I'm all for helping people live out their threescore and ten in good health, but on average it doesn't save anybody money.

>Also, demand for drugs is often inelastic, so people are more likely to make sacrifices here to pay for drugs. Which is fine in itself, but not when the high costs are the product of a cartel arrangement between government and industry.

Here again there has to be some way for the people doing development to recover their costs. The patent system allows the drug company to charge more to every patient who takes a drug for twenty years. Without it that would all have to be covered by tax money. I like the patent system better, since it's biased toward charging people with lifestyle-related problems more money than people who take care of themselves.

Also, with the patent system companies will spend money on development for treatments that are within the realm of scientific possibility and not because advocates for that particular disease have more political clout. How many billions were wasted in the "war on cancer"? Government just doesn't do this sort of thing very well.




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