Are they using only the electronic version or the mixed version? We used the mixed version in some elections here in Argentina. The paper trail is harder to fake, and the electronic part close a few problems of theonly paper version.
Things have always been iffy. No one knows for sure.
Edit: That link is the most recent example. Googling for voting machines themselves would bring more examples. Every election cycle we go through reports of malfunctioning, no audit, audit not matching, extra machines appearing, machines being taken around by politically connected, even things like pressing any button on the machine voting for the same party…etc., but ECI has been pushing it aside and refusing to open up. This recent one became an issue because the manipulation (allegedly) went a layer deeper into the voter rolls themselves and they are public data.
Haha no. Voting machines caused absurd amounts of political instability here in Brazil. It's essentially become wrongthink to question the system.
Our elected representatives have tried to add a paper trail to the machines twice now and it was ruled unconstitutional for total bullshit reasons. Our former president was banned from future presidential races because he questioned the machines. We have a judge loudly proclaiming that the machines are UNQUESTIONABLE with such unwavering pride you'd think he'd have the balls to start a billion dollar bug bounty and post it here on HN. He only allows you to "audit" the system by appointment behind closed doors and the only tools you're allowed to bring with you is a pen and a piece of paper. People found issues even with these restrictions. There are people protesting to this day, laymen asking for source code, completely unaware of the existence of supply chain attacks and the fact the source code would prove nothing and serve only to humiliate them. We have former US president Biden's top CIA guy telling our former president to stop questioning the machines, wouldn't be surprised if they had access to this shit.
Germany did it right: voting machines are unconstitutional because citizens do not understand it. Elections must be fully auditable by the average person. This is the correct stance.
>Our former president was banned from future presidential races because he questioned the machines.
Bolsonaro didn't question the electoral process, in fact, I doubt he even understand it himself. He questioned only the results, because in his mind he should have won by a lot.
Not dissimilar than Trump's "stop the count!" on US paper ballots.
He did. For years, and during his mandate. I was there. Out of every stupid thing he said and did, they cited his perfectly valid criticism of the voting machines as the reason for his banishment from politics until 2030. I submitted news of that event to HN.
> Not dissimilar than Trump's "stop the count!" on US paper ballots.
Completely different matter. I'm very skeptical of claims of election fraud in the USA because it uses paper ballots. I have no trouble at all believing that our Magnitsky sanctioned judge literally named Lula president. They broke the guy out of prison to run against Bolsonaro for a reason.
In the end it's irrelevant. Bolsonaro's ordeal has revealed the deep truth of Brazil to the masses: the real power is in the supreme court. Discussing elections is utterly pointless since these judges are not elected. Elections are just a game they play to give this shithole a veneer of democracy.
